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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Moderate republicans are the Fox News audience. They are the "Bush lovers" and the McCain supporters.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I would love to see a more moderate wing of our party. I would actually love for both parties to marginalize their extreme wings and remove them from the equation altogether.
    What is so extreme about believing in the right to life, liberty the pursuit of happiness, personal responsibility, less government and the founding principles?

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    From what I can tell, you're a lone voice in the GOP. I can't even think of how many posters here are always whining about RINOs.
    I think you have a point. However, I think there is a lot of polarization and "if you aren't with us you're against us" mentality going on with both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Moderate republicans are the Fox News audience. They are the "Bush lovers" and the McCain supporters.
    2 Words : Compassionate Conservative. COMPLETELY disprove your claim.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What is so extreme about believing in the right to life, liberty the pursuit of happiness, personal responsibility, less government and the founding principles?
    What is so extreme is that you, and many others, have a very narrow view of what those things entail, and view anyone who disagrees with you on anything as an enemy of freedom. Even the tone of the question you just asked confirms your moral superiority (in your own mind) to anyone who disagrees with you.

    Are there any realistic circumstances where you would support tax increases? Are there any realistic circumstances where you would support negotiating with (and making real concessions to) adversarial nations instead of threatening them?

    I didn't think so.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What is so extreme about believing in the right to life, liberty the pursuit of happiness, personal responsibility, less government and the founding principles?
    Did I say there was anything extreme about those principles? I don't remember saying there was anything extreme about those principles. Can you point me to where I stated there was anything extreme about those principles?

    Really? Didn't think so.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think you have a point. However, I think there is a lot of polarization and "if you aren't with us you're against us" mentality going on with both sides.
    I think the right wing is a lot more visibly polarized then the left. How many serious radically far left commentators can you name? I can think of Franken and Olberman. Now how many of these guys pull in the same numbers as far right figures like Rush and Coulter? None. While surely both sides have a lot of polarization I can't see it being as visible for the left as it is for the right. Mind you. The left does have some pretty polarizing groups like PETA and Code Pink but these are for the most part one issue groups who's activities say almost nothing about whether they stand for or against taxes or whether they oppose or support embryonic stem cell research etc.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did I say there was anything extreme about those principles? I don't remember saying there was anything extreme about those principles. Can you point me to where I stated there was anything extreme about those principles?

    Really? Didn't think so.
    No, jallman you did not say anything about those principles.

    But do you think the extremists espouse, believe in or live by principles much different than those mentioned?

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think the right wing is a lot more visibly polarized then the left. How many serious radically far left commentators can you name? I can think of Franken and Olberman. Now how many of these guys pull in the same numbers as far right figures like Rush and Coulter? None. While surely both sides have a lot of polarization I can't see it being as visible for the left as it is for the right. Mind you. The left does have some pretty polarizing groups like PETA and Code Pink but these are for the most part one issue groups who's activities say almost nothing about whether they stand for or against taxes or whether they oppose or support embryonic stem cell research etc.
    I see a completely different side of this. I see rightwingers becoming more extreme because leftwingers seem to constantly be on the attack and attempting to take away the very beliefs of those on the right. I think a lot of extreme right wingers don't really care much about taxes as much as they do not like having, for example, their religion and the freedom to practice it infringed upon.

    Take for instance the school prayer issue. I don't think schools should be organizing prayer. Most moderate republicans probably don't mind the school not organizing prayer either. However, when rabid leftist, one agenda loudmouths like Cephus come along and attempt to even stop individual students from having expressions of their religion on their free time, quite a few moderates go straight to extreme rapidly. It's a natural reaction to force being applied to them.

    That's just one issue. There are at least half a dozen of these hot button issues and with each one, you have a whole different demographic within the parties that become extreme.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    No, jallman you did not say anything about those principles.

    But do you think the extremists espouse, believe in or live by principles much different than those mentioned?
    In a word, yes.

    They tend to apply a double standard to the idea of "don't tread on me". They feel perfectly at ease with making the government tread on others in the name of their feigned moral superiority.

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