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Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

Did The Bush or his Press Secretaries single out opposing journalists

  • Yes Bush did this too.

    Votes: 8 50.0%

  • No. This is unique to Obama (though The Clintons singled out Rush as a racist)

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .
If I were Rush, I'd have little glee orgasms every single time some goofball in power on the left mentions my name.

Why wouldn't he?

His listeners cannot stand the people who are attacking him, for the most part, and every time one of them does it, it does indeed elevate him.

In fact, when Obama and others mention Rush, the people who are pissed off about what is going on in Washington with this spending are MORE likely to tune in.

And if someone is not a regular listener already, the fact that they hear from the President about someone who is saying what they might be thinking, they might be even more inclined to check out what is being said.

I'm sure the only outcome of this whole debacle so far has been a boost in Rush's ratings and popularity with his base.

Why bother fueling his fire?

I don't get it.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Well he sure elevated him into relevance.... :lol:
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I thought Rush was 24 million listeners relevant already.



Reverend_Hellh0und said:
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You brought up Bush. It's your fish.




Reverend_Hellh0und said:
He has says so, but you would have to listen to him, not third party left wing hacks to know that. ;)
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Who did he say was the leader of the GOP?
 
Tucker Case said:
If I were Rush, I'd have little glee orgasms every single time some goofball in power on the left mentions my name.

Why wouldn't he?

His listeners cannot stand the people who are attacking him, for the most part, and every time one of them does it, it does indeed elevate him.

In fact, when Obama and others mention Rush, the people who are pissed off about what is going on in Washington with this spending are MORE likely to tune in.

And if someone is not a regular listener already, the fact that they hear from the President about someone who is saying what they might be thinking, they might be even more inclined to check out what is being said.

I'm sure the only outcome of this whole debacle so far has been a boost in Rush's ratings and popularity with his base.

Why bother fueling his fire?

I don't get it.
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Rush may get increased ratings. Obama is stimulating his economy. I hope Rush sends him a thank you card. :mrgreen:

I don't think Rush could be any more popular with his fans.

I really think it's a divide and conquer strategy against the GOP. Sooner or later someone in the GOP will have to step up and become the leader. Either they take on Rush and alienate his listeners, or they will have Limbaugh stapled to them.

Anyone who talks for 3 hours a day is going to say something stupid or offensive. It may be a gamble, but the odds may be in their favor.

Conservatives stapled Michael Moore to Gore and Kerry. They couldn't rise above that. I know Moore isn't exactly Rush, but both are detestable to the opposing sides, and much of the moderates.

I don't see moderates flocking to Rush over this.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Look it jumped a million since yesterday! :lol::lol:
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Sorry I got the number wrong.





Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Not in this manner. I was making a relevant comparison on how to handle entertainers as critics.
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Let me know when Obama discusses Ted Nugent. The Dixie Chicks are not the same kind of entertainer as Rush.





Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Steele.
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I thought he said that Steele wasn't the leader of the party. Why yes, that is what he said. It's at about 1:45 in.

YouTube - Rush Limbaugh: Michael Steele and the NRC Part 1
 
Head of the RNC and not the head of the Republican party.... Get act together...


Yes I fully agree with him, my bad for not understanding you...


However, what is the thesis of Rush after 1:45? Context is everything.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Head of the RNC and not the head of the Republican party.... Get act together...


Yes I fully agree with him, my bad for not understanding you...


However, what is the thesis of Rush after 1:45? Context is everything.
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I have stuff to do but will address fully later.

At 2:20 he complains about open primaries. :rofl

Operation Chaos Fail. :lol:
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Rush may get increased ratings. Obama is stimulating his economy. I hope Rush sends him a thank you card. :mrgreen:

I don't think Rush could be any more popular with his fans.

I really think it's a divide and conquer strategy against the GOP. Sooner or later someone in the GOP will have to step up and become the leader. Either they take on Rush and alienate his listeners, or they will have Limbaugh stapled to them.

Anyone who talks for 3 hours a day is going to say something stupid or offensive. It may be a gamble, but the odds may be in their favor.

Conservatives stapled Michael Moore to Gore and Kerry. They couldn't rise above that. I know Moore isn't exactly Rush, but both are detestable to the opposing sides, and much of the moderates.

I don't see moderates flocking to Rush over this.
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You hit a point within the "divide and conquer paragraph" that makes it look like an even Huger blunder.

I think we all agree the Republicans lacked leadership on The Hill after Obama was elected and up to that critical juncture... "don't listen to Rush".
I believed Obama sucked all the oxygen out of them up to that point.

After that it was like the creation of the universe.
"don't listen to Rush" was The Big Bang Moment and the R's have been getting oxygen since then, and their universe expanding.

Obama gave the R's not only a surrogate leader until some come forward to join Rush, but Rush is now Obama's more public than ever Fourth Estate.

The R's... Leaderless and without oxygen, Obama made a blunder of magnificent proportions.

We like these kinds of blunders.
 
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zimmer said:
Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

... members of the press or private citizens that expressed opposition to him and his policies?
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Of course I do.

Here's one.

"The President is focused on talking about the future and how we lead this country going forward in the war on terrorism, and how we lead going forward to address the many challenges that we face. There are some critical challenges facing this nation over the next four years. The first and foremost is how we lead in the war on terrorism, and that's where this debate should be focused. That's where the American people want the debate focused. Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues.

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Just yesterday the Democratic National Committee launched what they called Operation Fortunate Son. Fortunate Son was the name of a book from the 2000 campaign that was written by a convicted felon who was widely discredited. And this whole effort is simply to attack the President. That's what it is about. The Democrats -- and then you have this so-called group, Texans for Truth, which is lead by a Democrat operative in Texas who has the support of the MoveOn.org organization. These are just a few examples. You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."

- Scott McClellan, September 15, 2004
 
niftydrifty said:
You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."
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While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1057948137
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
How long have conservatives been crying about the liberal media? Bush called them the "media filter". I consider this to be along those lines.

Rush could dispell the myth that he is the defacto leader of the GOP by naming who really is. Why hasn't he done this? ;)
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On your point about the media, I think they made it pretty clear during the election which political party they support. Secondly, if you actually listened to Rush then you would know that he has stated he is not, and has no interest in being the leader of the GOP.
 
Tucker Case said:
While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.
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another example.

later in the Bush presidency, the White House website had a regular series of pages called "setting the record straight," where it responded to criticisms in the media.

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Tucker Case said:
While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."
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Sorry, somehow screwed up the link in that post. It was supposed to be the white house transcript of nifty's quote. :doh
 
niftydrifty said:
another example.

later in the Bush presidency, the White House website had a regular series of pages called "setting the record straight," where it responded to criticisms in the media.

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correcting bs stories with accuracy is not the same as picking a fight with limbaugh. Is this the best you got? :lamo
 
Tucker Case said:
While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1057948137
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This is critisizing the democrats, not an entertainer on the radio. ;)
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Not really, she is anything but entertaining...... that voice! :shock:
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Well I didn't say she was entertaining. ****, puff daddy is an "entertainer" but I'm never entertained.



Wasn't she an advisor as well?
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Well, campaign manager for Dukakis. But I don't think that qualifies as being in politics. She's never run for office and currently holds no position that makes her anything more than an entertainer.

And the criticisms of her by the white house were becasue of what she wrote as a columnist.

She's equal to Rush in that regard.
 
Tucker Case said:
Well I didn't say she was entertaining. ****, puff daddy is an "entertainer" but I'm never entertained.[/qote[uote]


touche...




Well, campaign manager for Dukakis. But I don't think that qualifies as being in politics. She's never run for office and currently holds no position that makes her anything more than an entertainer.

And the criticisms of her by the white house were becasue of what she wrote as a columnist.

She's equal to Rush in that regard.
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She is no rush...... Hell she is no tucker case! :lol:




What did bush say about her again?
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What did bush say about her again?
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It wasn't Bush, it was Scott McClellan:

"You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."

Which qualifies as an answer to this:

zimmer said:
Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

... members of the press or private citizens that expressed opposition to him and his policies?
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She is a member of the "press" who expressed opposition to Bush and his policies that was singled out by Bush's press secretary.

While she is nowhere near Rush in regards to clout, she's on the same level as far as the topic goes.


P.S. Tucker Case > Rush Limbaugh. :mrgreen:


P.P.S. I put "Press" in quotes because she is not really a member of th epress, but neither is Limbaugh.
 
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Tucker Case said:
It wasn't Bush, it was Scott McClellan:

"You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."

Which qualifies as an answer to this:



She is a member of the press who expressed opposition to Bush and his policies that was singled out by Bush's press secretary.

While she is nowhere near Rush in regards to clout, she's on the same level as far as the topic goes.


P.S. Tucker Case > Rush Limbaugh. :mrgreen:
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Ahh..... so bush unlike obama said nothing? :mrgreen:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
correcting bs stories with accuracy is not the same as picking a fight with limbaugh. Is this the best you got? :lamo
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"the best i got" has already refuted the premise of the OP.
 
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