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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Rush may get increased ratings. Obama is stimulating his economy. I hope Rush sends him a thank you card.

    I don't think Rush could be any more popular with his fans.

    I really think it's a divide and conquer strategy against the GOP. Sooner or later someone in the GOP will have to step up and become the leader. Either they take on Rush and alienate his listeners, or they will have Limbaugh stapled to them.

    Anyone who talks for 3 hours a day is going to say something stupid or offensive. It may be a gamble, but the odds may be in their favor.

    Conservatives stapled Michael Moore to Gore and Kerry. They couldn't rise above that. I know Moore isn't exactly Rush, but both are detestable to the opposing sides, and much of the moderates.

    I don't see moderates flocking to Rush over this.
    You hit a point within the "divide and conquer paragraph" that makes it look like an even Huger blunder.

    I think we all agree the Republicans lacked leadership on The Hill after Obama was elected and up to that critical juncture... "don't listen to Rush".
    I believed Obama sucked all the oxygen out of them up to that point.

    After that it was like the creation of the universe.
    "don't listen to Rush" was The Big Bang Moment and the R's have been getting oxygen since then, and their universe expanding.

    Obama gave the R's not only a surrogate leader until some come forward to join Rush, but Rush is now Obama's more public than ever Fourth Estate.

    The R's... Leaderless and without oxygen, Obama made a blunder of magnificent proportions.

    We like these kinds of blunders.
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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    ... members of the press or private citizens that expressed opposition to him and his policies?
    Of course I do.

    Here's one.

    "The President is focused on talking about the future and how we lead this country going forward in the war on terrorism, and how we lead going forward to address the many challenges that we face. There are some critical challenges facing this nation over the next four years. The first and foremost is how we lead in the war on terrorism, and that's where this debate should be focused. That's where the American people want the debate focused. Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues.

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    Just yesterday the Democratic National Committee launched what they called Operation Fortunate Son. Fortunate Son was the name of a book from the 2000 campaign that was written by a convicted felon who was widely discredited. And this whole effort is simply to attack the President. That's what it is about. The Democrats -- and then you have this so-called group, Texans for Truth, which is lead by a Democrat operative in Texas who has the support of the MoveOn.org organization. These are just a few examples. You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."


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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    You have an op-ed that was written by Susan Estrich that talked about how the Democrats are going to start engaging in personal attacks on the President's character. And the American people deserve better. It's just sad to see that the debate -- that they are lowering themselves to this level."
    While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

    Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."

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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    How long have conservatives been crying about the liberal media? Bush called them the "media filter". I consider this to be along those lines.

    Rush could dispell the myth that he is the defacto leader of the GOP by naming who really is. Why hasn't he done this?
    On your point about the media, I think they made it pretty clear during the election which political party they support. Secondly, if you actually listened to Rush then you would know that he has stated he is not, and has no interest in being the leader of the GOP.

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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.
    another example.

    later in the Bush presidency, the White House website had a regular series of pages called "setting the record straight," where it responded to criticisms in the media.

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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=3227&dateline=1247527  127

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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

    Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."
    Sorry, somehow screwed up the link in that post. It was supposed to be the white house transcript of nifty's quote.
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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    another example.

    later in the Bush presidency, the White House website had a regular series of pages called "setting the record straight," where it responded to criticisms in the media.

    link




    correcting bs stories with accuracy is not the same as picking a fight with limbaugh. Is this the best you got?


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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    While it is not as big a name as Rush, this is one clear-cut example of the Bush administration doing the same thing.

    Although it should be noted that McClellan was asked to cite an example to support his assertion: "Yet Democrats are clearly orchestrating attacks on the President because they can't talk about the future, and they can't win when the discussion is on the issues."

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/newrep...y&p=1057948137



    This is critisizing the democrats, not an entertainer on the radio.


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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is critisizing the democrats, not an entertainer on the radio.
    Susan Estrich is not a politician. She's a TV and print personality. She's an entertainer herself.
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    Re: Do you remember President Bush or his Press Secretaries singling out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Susan Estrich is not a politician. She's a TV and print personality. She's an entertainer herself.


    Not really, she is anything but entertaining...... that voice!



    Wasn't she an advisor as well?


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