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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Nah, my point is.


    In order for these 18-45 males and females in the guard to be well regulated, the RKBA shall not be infringed on anyone.

    RKBA ?................
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    RKBA ?................


    right to keep.........


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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    right to keep.........
    Ok... I don't think that it should either, as long as those that own guns realize that they are in the militia and gun owners realize that it is a collective right.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Ok... I don't think that it should either, as long as those that own guns realize that they are in the militia[
    Not according to the law.

    and gun owners realize that it is a collective right.
    Not according to the law and the SCotUS.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Ok... I don't think that it should either, as long as those that own guns realize that they are in the militia and gun owners realize that it is a collective right.



    I think it is an individual right for a collective need.


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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Its already been made public that The Obama looks to reinstate an 'assault weapon' ban:

    ABC News: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    If you answered 'yes', please answer these questions:

    -What positive effect did the 1994-2004 AWB have on crime?
    -If you cannot specify a verifiable positive effect, then why do you support another ban?


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    I said yes for two reasons. First, AWB aside (though some reduction in crime was reported in the figures), there have been no repeats of the 1997 North Hollywood shoot-out since the first ban. Secondly, such weapons serve no purpose other than murder. How many people hunt with an assault rifle or even target shoot. Standard bolt-action rifles are 10-times more accurate and handguns are much more used in target shooting. Assault rifles are used for compound protection by insane zealots, so I have no problem making it more difficult for them to own them.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    I voted yes. Seems like a step towards sanity to me. We can debate the smallness or largeness of the step itself but whatever the general consensus, I can't see how the step should be avoided altogether.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I said yes for two reasons. First, AWB aside (though some reduction in crime was reported in the figures), there have been no repeats of the 1997 North Hollywood shoot-out since the first ban.
    Factual error and fallacy:
    -The AWB did not affect full-auto weapons such as those used in that event.
    -Even if it sdid, there's no way to show that the ban prevented another shooting like that

    Secondly, such weapons serve no purpose other than murder.
    Factual error
    'Assault weapons' can be effctively used for just about any legitimate purpose on emight have for a gun.

    How many people hunt with an assault rifle or even target shoot.
    factual errors and fallacy
    -I shoot competitively wity my 'assault weapons', as do tens of thousands of others.
    -There isnt any reason an 'assualt weapon' cannot be used to hunt as effectibely as any other weapon you;d hunt with
    -The reason for protecting the right to arms has nothing to do with hunting or target shooting.

    Standard bolt-action rifles are 10-times more accurate
    Factual error.
    The accuracy of many 'assault weapons' compares favorably to and may exceed that of a standard bolt-action rifle -- as anyone thats fired in service rifle class from the 1000yd line.

    Assault rifles are used for compound protection by insane zealots, so I have no problem making it more difficult for them to own them.
    I wonder: now that you know that the stated basis for your support of the ban has been shown to be factually and logically flawed -- will you change your mind?

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not according to the law.


    Not according to the law and the SCotUS.
    Well, SCOTUS is wrong, and I have shown in the past how wrong they have been as well...

    It is what it is...
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I think it is an individual right for a collective need.
    That's not a bad way to look at it...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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