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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    We Democrats who are the real heros of America, need to be armed in order to kill the radical fake conservatives of the right, and the GOP.
    Tell us then why it is that Democrats, whenever they have a chance, ban as many guns as they can.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think that you are discounting those mindless zealots that you see during campaigns screaming and freaking while waving banners and wearing buttons... I think that those people support their candidate 100% on every single issue... period.
    Y'know, I thought about this for a while and I've come to a few conclusions.

    First, I think that most of those people - if they do support their candidate 100% - just haven't thought about it enough. In most cases, I'd bet that several key points are covered and they're happy and perhaps assume they are in full agreement. I also think that if they really applied their reason and logic centers, they'd realize that there are things that candidate believes that they do not.

    Further, that's okay because it's unrealistic to expect otherwise.

    Second, many voters appear to be single-issue voters and enthusiastically support whatever candidate lends their voice appropriately to that issue. Nothing else matters much and they frequently appear blissfully unaware of the other items on the agenda.

    Third, I think a lot of people put on a full-support face after the fact because they feel that conceding dissent (even if only for a handful of issues or perhaps relatively inconsequential issues) reveals weak spots that their opponents will exploit. As if nothing less than 100% adherence to the line will suffice.

    If we're honest with ourselves, we acknowledge that politics are a pastiche of weighted decisions, hedging your bets, and perhaps most painfully: give-and-take. We cannot possibly be in full agreement on everything, no matter who we are.
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You were on ignore. Then you became a moderator, leaving me with no choice but to suffer your inanity.

    Its quite simple:

    The law, not owning a gun, make you part of the militia.
    As a member of the miltiia, there is no legal requirement that you own a gun.

    Thus, you are wrong.
    I am not sure how you think that contradicts what I said... but if you think that you made a valid case, then good for you!
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not sure how you think that contradicts what I said[.
    You said:
    ...[as long as] anybody who buys [an assault weapon] realizes that they are in the militia and could and should be called upon in time of need...
    Nothing you posted supports your claim; everythng I posted negates it.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You said:

    Nothing you posted supports your claim; everythng I posted negates it.
    Are citizens subject to being in a militia?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Are citizens subject to being in a militia?



    Did you respond to my point?


    I think you have it backwards. There is no militia requirement to own a weapon as the way it reads that in order to have a militia in good working order the right of the people to own military arms is absolute.


    Thusly creating a pool of able bodied men to muster in times of need.


    Also the militia according to us law, is you and I.


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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Are citizens subject to being in a militia?




    All able bodied males 18-45 not in the military, and women in the national guard are the militia.


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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Are citizens subject to being in a militia?
    Depends on the citizen and the law. Not every citizen is so subjected.
    It does NOT depend on owning a gun, and owning a gun is NOT subject to being in the militia.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 03-05-09 at 03:30 PM.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    All able bodied males 18-45 not in the military, and women in the national guard are the militia.
    Correct, then my point is valid.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Correct, then my point is valid.


    Nah, my point is.


    In order for these 18-45 males and females in the guard to be well regulated, the RKBA shall not be infringed on anyone.


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