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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    I voted No, but only because there wasnt my preferred option :

    You get a free assault rifle if you're 18, with no criminal record, when you get your license renewed... as well as pistols and/ or shotguns, depending on the persons preference.

    If the person takes a gun they must sign up to a basic proficiency course on the chosen weapon.

    Done.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    I'd say not, though the gun lobby's claims that the introduction of more guns into a community reduces violent crime is disingenuous at the least and a flagrant lie, at the most. I am amused by liberals (who allegedly support "rights" and want to attack the "root cause" of crime), favoring extremely draconian gun bans, while not acknowledging that the root cause of many forms of crime is unjust poverty, for instance.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Back in '04 the DOJ wrote a report about the AWB's effects

    Source [National Criminal Justice Reference Service | Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003] (PDF)



    It would seem that the largest effect of the ban was seen due to restritions on weapons with Large Capacity Magazines, and that exemptions greatly reduced its effectiveness. I don't have a strong opinion about the AWB (I really don't see anything negative about banning assault weapons), and am generally against gun control, but from the DOJ report I would have to conclude that the AWB was effective, and would have been much more effective had it been stronger.
    With all that said you just proved that the assault weapons ban was a failure.
    Crime went down while assault weapons were readily available.

    I worked at a large gun shop while it was in effect and guns that took high capacity magazines were for sale just as they were before the ban.

    The ban did not do anything but make some assembled cosmetic features illegal.

    High cap magazines were banned as well but before the ban took place the manufacturers pumped out an ass load thus having no effect on availability.
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The weapons that were grandfathered in are now a decade and a half old.
    Many are older. And, of course, many were sold during the ban. And many have been sold since. But then, with proper care, firearms will last forever...

    If I had to guess I'd say that either the exemptions would not be included,
    So, you think that all -existing- 'assault weapons' will be banned, and then confiscated?

    The report is careful to avoid crediting the nationwide drop in gun violence to the AWB, but the effects on crime involving assault weapons are clear.
    Actually, they are not. The only benefit alluded to in the rep[ort has to do with the availability of the hi-cap mags, not the guns.

    So, what effect did the GUN ban have on crime?
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Crime in the large US cities have gone down since the ban.
    Show that the ban had anything to do with this.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    You think anyone without a felony conviction should be able to own fully automatic weapons?
    We aren't talking about fully automatic weapons.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    As long as anybody who buys one realizes that they are in the militia and could and should be called upon in time of need, go for it.
    There's no support for this position at all. Your membership in the militia is not dependent on you owning any sort of firearm, and vice-versa.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Somebody tell me, a person with nothing other than a minor traffic violation on his record, why I shouldn't be allowed to own an assault rifle.
    I'm still waiting for an answer to this.....
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