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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fully automatic weapons should be completely legal. And any criminal who has finished the full of their punishment (including probation) should have the full of their rights recognized.
    In Europe I support handgun ownership for everyone, except convicted felons, not everyone but violent ones and murderers. I support heavier weapons including semi automatic weapons for anyone who had proper training with them, in for example the military or the police.

    I guess thats what I think it should be in the US as well.
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Following implementation of the ban, the share of gun crimes involving AWs
    declined by 17% to 72% across the localities examined for this study


    Yeah that sounds great until you realize that your talking about less than .001% of all gun crimes.... (read like 12)


    this statistics is funny business.




    Police View: Over 100,000 police officers delivered a message to Congress in 1990 stating that only 2% to 3% of crimes are committed using a so-called "assault weapon."105

    * New Jersey: The New York Times reported that, "Although New Jersey's pioneering ban on military-style assault rifles was sold to the state as a crime-fighting measure, its impact on violence in the state . . . has been negligible, both sides agree."106 Moreover, New Jersey police statistics show that only .026 of 1 percent of all crimes involve "assault rifles."107

    * Nationwide: The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported in 1993 that violent criminals only carry or use a "military-type gun" in about one percent of the crimes nationwide.108
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I guess thats what I think it should be in the US as well.
    Good thing you don't make the rules in the US
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    In truth, I'm not very open to debating this issue. I'm going to oppose any weapons ban, categorically, as the default position. Grabbing guns is nothing more than grabbing power.

    No, it's not about public safety, that's surrogate argument for the real issue. Anyone, anyone, who makes that argument is a liar and summarily ignored.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    If somebody is a law abiding citizen, what difference does it make what kind of gun they own? The argument from the gun-control crowd is "Why do you need them?" when the question really should be "Why shouldn't you be allowed to have them?"

    Somebody tell me, a person with nothing other than a minor traffic violation on his record, why I shouldn't be allowed to own an assault rifle.
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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Of course I do.

    Democrats are weapons used to assualt the Constitution, and should be banned.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    As long as anybody who buys one realizes that they are in the militia and could and should be called upon in time of need, go for it.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I voted no, I will wait for some of the Obama supporters to state why they do support it before I answer.
    I'm an Obama supporter but I absolutely disagree with a new assault weapons ban.
    Hi. TOGTFO.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'm an Obama supporter but I absolutely disagree with a new assault weapons ban.
    You're not excused, you are very much on the hook.

    We knew gun control was an issue Obama was going to press. It was a core issue which lead Conservative to oppose Obama, in fact.

    By voting for Obama, you voted for gun control, so please spar us the hyperbole about how you suddenly care about Constitutional rights. You donít because you support Obama, and Obama hates the Constitution and everything it stands for. He proves such every day, from socialized healthcare to supporting forced abortion.

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    Re: Do you support a new ban on 'assault weapons'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're not excused, you are very much on the hook.

    We knew gun control was an issue Obama was going to press. It was a core issue which lead Conservative to oppose Obama, in fact.

    By voting for Obama, you voted for gun control, so please spar us the hyperbole about how you suddenly care about Constitutional rights. You donít because you support Obama, and Obama hates the Constitution and everything it stands for. He proves such every day, from socialized healthcare to supporting forced abortion.
    Jerry, how about you take your meds and come back when you've settled down a little bit? You don't need to flip your lid here.

    This is an issue I disagree on, but not one I'm wrapped around the axle on. While I disagreed with it, the previous assault weapons ban did not destroy our nation and enslave us to the liberal SS. If they get this reinstated, and I hope they don't, I won't be happy, but I'm not worried about federal agents kicking down my door to take my Glocks or my DPMS Panther. I don't need the rifle, but I wanted it. I don't believe the government will try to take it.

    I've never found a candidate that is all things to all people. I went with Obama for a number of reasons, but gun control is not one of them. It just wasn't enough of a "threat to my rights" to scare me off.
    Last edited by Lerxst; 03-04-09 at 01:27 AM.
    Hi. TOGTFO.

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