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Was Rush Limbaugh a G.W. Bush supporter throughout his Presidency?

Was Rush Limbaugh a G.W. Bush supporter throughout the Presidency?

  • Yes, because...

    Votes: 7 38.9%
  • No, because...

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Other and here's why.

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Are you kidding? Of course he was.

    Votes: 8 44.4%

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This subject has been the discussion of some intense debate in this thread.. On the one hand you have folks like myself who believe that Rush Limbaugh was a staunch supporter of GWB throughout the Presidency. On the other hand you have guys like Reverend Hell Hound who claim Rush was critical of Bush on numerous issues and even highly critical of him towards the end. We absolutely found no common ground on this issue.

Based upon what you know of Limbaugh, what do you feel best classifies his position with regard to supporting or criticizing Bush? Or possibly an alternate position. Please take the time to type just a few sentences explaining how you reached your decision.

Mine is obviously that Rush Limbaugh supported Bush from start to finish. Despite claims that he was critical of Bush on many issues, I have yet to see evidence of this. I can't find any evidence that paints Rush as remotely a Bush critic. Has Limbaugh expressed disagreement with Bush on certain issues...sure, he's spoken out against certain legislation, the government, and even the Republican Party. But I've found really nothing in which he directly confronts Bush for his actions and holds him accountable for decisions Rush didn't agree with (during the Presidency).
 
I'm not sure if he was or not but I'm not sure a poll settles the issue.

Of course it doesn't settle the issue. I'm merely seeking opinions of other DP members here and their reasoning behind their opinion. Nothing more. In the end the poll could clearly show that I'm out on an island, which is something I wouldn't like to find out. But it is what it is I guess.
 
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This phone call suggests a warm mutual regard over many years and if there have been points of disagreement it seems they weren't major.

The Bush Family Calls Rush
 
I was a huge Rush fan at one time. I listened to him through most of Bushes first term and some of his second.

He may have disagreed with President Bushes policy's at times, but he never stopped supporting the President at all.
 
Mine is obviously that Rush Limbaugh supported Bush from start to finish. Despite claims that he was critical of Bush on many issues, I have yet to see evidence of this. I can't find any evidence that paints Rush as remotely a Bush critic.
How often did you listen to Limbaugh during the Bush Administration?
 
Of course it doesn't settle the issue. I'm merely seeking opinions of other DP members here and their reasoning behind their opinion. Nothing more. In the end the poll could clearly show that I'm out on an island, which is something I wouldn't like to find out. But it is what it is I guess.




The premise of this thread does not match the scope of the previous discussion...


Like I said in the other thread.


It was said he was essentially lock step with Bush. My contention and I backed it up with links to which you said I provided "no evidence" :confused: was that he was at times critical of Bush, and highly so of the bailouts.


Anyway once again I will show you the "no evidence" I provided.


He was not in agreement with Bush on:


Immigration
Bail outs
patriotism
Assault Weapons ban



I clearly demonstrated several issues in which Rush disagreed with Bush.


Of course Rush is a Bush supporter, that was never the argument. The argument was whether he was ever critical of him or not.
 
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oh dear. "patriotism" is a policy issue according to reverend hellhound?!? wow...

"Support"

to promote the interests or cause of
to uphold or defend as valid or right : advocate
to argue or vote for
assist, help
 
In general, Rush supported Bush throughout the presidency.

That does not mean he was a mindless drone that never spoke up.

He did disagree with Bush pointedly on Immigration. He routinely would bring up perscription drug as a point where he disagreed with the President and his administration. He disagreed with how he handled NCLB. And towards the end he even pointed out that in general Bush was not a rock ribbed conservative.

Did he disagree with him or attack his positions as venomously as he did Democrats? No. Is that a surprise? No. Look on this website. In general, find a liberal or conservative that is as venomous against someone in their party that does something they disagree with and someone in the other party. Save for a select few like Dana you won't find it.

Screaming "Prove it" however is a rather weak defense on this when you're talking about a show on 200+ days a year, for 3 hours a day, for 8 years of this presidency. All of Rush's transcripts are not easily accessed by the public. Idiotic partisan people who parade that they're non-partisan like Media Matters only documents things (generally misquoted or out of context) that Rush says that they don't like, not things they agree with like condemnations of the President for the most part.

Did Rush support the Bush Presidency? Yes.

Did he agree with everything Bush did? No.

Did he feel that Bush was an ideal conservative? No.
 
oh dear. "patriotism" is a policy issue according to reverend hellhound?!? wow...

"Support"

to promote the interests or cause of
to uphold or defend as valid or right : advocate
to argue or vote for
assist, help



Are you nit picking one out of my 4 because it you think that proves me wrong?


Or were you being intellectually lazy in an attempt to score forum points. :2wave:
 
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I'm not sure if he was or not but I'm not sure a poll settles the issue.
It does for Lerxst, because he wants to run around and say that Rush gave Bush 100% unconditional support. Total bull****, but Lerxst likes yes or no situations. Proof must be absolute and in writing otherwise he's right. Just look at his sig.
 
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How often did you listen to Limbaugh during the Bush Administration?

The first five years. I was a Ditto Head and Sick Twisted Freak for quite a long time.
 
He agreed with Bush on almost everything, the only difference I can see is he disagreed on how to achieve those goals.
 
The first five years. I was a Ditto Head and Sick Twisted Freak for quite a long time.
And in that time, you heard no disagreement whatsoever from Limbaugh about something Bush was doing or wanted to do.
 
The premise of this thread does not match the scope of the previous discussion...
It absolutely does.

Like I said in the other thread.


It was said he was essentially lock step with Bush.
It didn't say that at all. You need to go ahead and prove that. What it said was "Rush was a supporter throughout Bush's Presidency" to which you said that was "highly inaccurate." It was a ludicrous statement on your part. You went on to further say he was not only critical of Bush, but highly critical at the end, on several issues.
My contention and I backed it up with links to which you said I provided "no evidence" :confused: was that he was at times critical of Bush, and highly so of the bailouts.
No, you didn't provide proof. I asked you for specific evidence of Rush directly criticizing Bush. You gave no such evidence and I proved it by reading your links and pointing out the absence of any such direct criticism.

Anyway once again I will show you the "no evidence" I provided.
As you will see...you did not provide evidence of Rush criticizing Bush directly.

He was not in agreement with Bush on:
Ooopss...sorry Reverend, not the argument we were having. You moved the goal posts on us with this.
Please link to the actual article that proves your point.
Already addressed this one. There is nothing in that article that cites Rush directly criticizing George W.
Wow...patriotism...that's one of several "issues?" Bush states "I won't question the patriotism of someone who disagrees with me" and Rush says "I respectfully disagree." Lol...okay, patriotism is not an "issue." It's Bush saying "I'm not going to get into the mud on this anymore." And saying I disagree is not a criticism. It's a simple disagreement. Do you know what a critism is? Hint: it's not a simple disagreement. And Rush simply disagreeing with Bush was not your base argument at all, you simply changed it when you were on the ropes. We can track your posts throughout that thread if you like and I can show you exactly where you decided to play a different game.

Please link to the actual article that proves your point.


I clearly demonstrated several issues in which Rush disagreed with Bush.
Of course that was not the argument now was it. I'm still waiting on you to back up your claim of Rush being a Bush critic on several issues.

Of course Rush is a Bush supporter, that was never the argument.
That was absolutely part of the argument, as you called the notion that Rush was a Bush fan throughout the Presidency "highly inaccurate."

The argument was whether he was ever critical of him or not.
And I challenged you to show where Rush was ever directly critical of Bush. You've not done so. Do you really understand what I'm asking of you? Do you understand that when I examine the links you submit as "evidence" and find absolutely no mention of Rush directly criticizing President Bush
 
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Like I said in the other thread, if you want to split hairs and claim I provided no proof, there is not much for us to discuss.



http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057944243-post126.html


I guess that was not proof.... :roll:



Anyway as usual you are wrong...


The argument made, that I addressed was:

""Rush was a huge fan of Bush for all that time"


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-find-right-candidate-10.html#post1057943744



I proved this wrong.



Now. Show me where Rush agreed with bush on any of those 4 things I outlined above.


I mean if he was lock step with Rush as you seem to be saying. This should be easy. :roll:






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Like I said in the other thread, if you want to split hairs and claim I provided no proof, there is not much for us to discuss.
Well there is plenty to discuss, you just seem to be unable to prove your point...the one you originally tried to make. Not the new diluted argument you have made.

Now. Show me where Rush agreed with bush on any of those 4 things.
Why would I need to do that, that wasn't the argument we were having. That was the argument you were having all by yourself. Not agreeing is not the same as being critical or highly critical. You should just give it up, you've lost.

I mean if he was lock step with Rush as you seem to be saying. This should be easy. :roll:
Well when that becomes my argument Rev, I'll concede the point in advance. But until then I suggest you look in the mirror when mouthing those words because they don't really mean anything here.
 
In general, Rush supported Bush throughout the presidency.
that answers the question, thanks. but the rest of your post, ... whew.

That does not mean he was a mindless drone that never spoke up.
who claimed that?

Did he disagree with him or attack his positions as venomously as he did Democrats?
no one asked this question, either.

Screaming "Prove it" however is a rather weak defense on this when you're talking about a show on 200+ days a year, for 3 hours a day, for 8 years of this presidency.
asking for evidence in a debate is to be expected, it's not weak.

Idiotic? how?

...partisan people who parade that they're non-partisan...
actually they don't. read the "about us" portion of their website.

...like Media Matters only documents things (generally misquoted or out of context) that Rush says that they don't like, not things they agree with like condemnations of the President for the most part.
name something of Rush that was misquoted by media matters. name something of Rush out of context. a "condemnation of the president" isn't an example of something that isn't true, it's a mere opinion. so why would media matters list that? maybe if Rush condemned him for something that wasn't true. did he?

besides, what does media matters have to do anything? since you won't find examples to support your statements, you can just tell us that you brought up the non sequitor, and rambled on and on, for nothing.
 
No it's not Reverend. I've already shown you why in the other thread. The only reference in that article was a warning to the administration to get it right. That's not a criticism. It's a warning.

Anyway as usual you are wrong...
Not yet I'm not, and certainly not "as usual." :rofl

The argument made, that I addressed was:

""Rush was a huge fan of Bush for all that time"


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-find-right-candidate-10.html#post1057943744

Yep, that started it. And then when I challenged you on that you went on the whole "he was critical, highly critical of Bush" tangent. That is what I zeroed in on. That is what I asked you to prove. That is what you have failed to prove.

I proved this wrong.
How did you do that? Did Rush ever signal that he was no longer a "fan" of Bush? He didn't agree with him on a few points. That doesn't mean he was critical of Bush or he wasn't a fan of the President. In order for you to claim Rush wasn't a "fan" of the President at any time, you have to show there was some kind of discernible break in his support of Bush. Warning Bush to handle things right is not a discernible break. Disagreeing with Bush over questioning Democrats patriotism is not a discernible break.

If you want to thump your chest and shout "evidence!" go right ahead. In your mind I'm sure it is. But what you have provided in no way backs up the argument you are making and certainly doesn't prove your case about him being a Bush critic.
 
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