Think we didn't kill civilians in Vietnam? Think civilians didn't die in either Iraq? What about Clinton's missile strikes, nothing? You said:
Wrong.
Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
Our military does not target civilians. End of story.
Until you can show us/me where it is in the military strategic planning/doctrine that expressly dictates that our United States Military is ordered to SPECIFICALLY TARGETS CIVILIANS... you aint got ****. Sorry sweatheart.
End of Story.
WWII is in the past. We are in the present. The Iraq War is the PRESENT WAR.
WWII is Irrelevant.
Vietnam is Irrelevant.
The Civil War is Irrelevant.
Show where in Clintons Missile Strikes it indicated or specified that our military was to engage and kill civilians please. Thanks.
I am not sure that you understand the difference between collatoral damage and what is a specific agenda.
This is an absolute statement, I merely had shown that these aren't absolutes. And now just absurdity from your part because you got beat. Don't make absolute statements, sorry but we have targeted civilians and we don't necessarily pull out if is a civilian element. We've often stuck where there were civilians. So basically you said:
Striking where civilians are is not targeting civilians. You didn't beat anything.
You are merely showing that you don't understand what specifically targeting civilians means.
I told you when we did, you said it's not valid even though you made an statement of absolution. You should watch your rhetoric. Also, just to be clear when I agreed with talloulou; you were not saying the same exact thing as her. She showed how McVeigh could have been relying on terror to get his way; that's a valid claim to terrorism. You're basically defining terrorism as people who blow up things whom we don't like. Al Queda is a terrorist organization. They use terror to try to influence the People and governments. That's what makes a terrorist. Merely blowing something up isn't an act of terrorism, there has to be more to it.
I was not saying that his sole purpose of blowing **** up was to cause terror.
I never said that. I said that he was a terrorist. Show me where I said that
his sole goal was to cause terror or keep your assumptions to yourself.
I have also differentiated between simply blowing things up and what terrorists do...
One reason that McVeigh blew up those buildings was to cause terror, that
is also a byproduct of war, but it is still terrorism if that is in your agenda.
What Tal and I said were very similar. To the extent that we were basically
saying the same thing. I never said that we said the exact same thing, you did.
I think that you need to get off of the assumption train and read what I am
actually saying instead of misinterpreting things so out of context.