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Thread: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

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    Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Ok, the following is an excerpt from Governor Jindal's speech:

    "To solve our current problems, Washington must lead. But the way to lead is not to raise taxes and put more money and power in hands of Washington politicians. The way to lead is by empowering you - the American people. Because we believe that Americans can do anything.

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    "Democratic leaders say their legislation will grow the economy. What it will do is grow the government, increase our taxes down the line, and saddle future generations with debt. Who among us would ask our children for a loan, so we could spend money we do not have, on things we do not need? That is precisely what the Democrats in Congress just did. It's irresponsible. And it's no way to strengthen our economy, create jobs, or build a prosperous future for our children.

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    In Louisiana, we took a different approach. Since I became governor, we cut more than 250 earmarks from our state budget. And to create jobs for our citizens, we cut taxes six times — including the largest income tax cut in the history of our state.
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    You can read the entire text of the speech here if you want: Full Text of Governor Bobby Jindal’s Response To President Obama’s Speech to Congress…

    But basically, its standard small government conservatism. He is advocating for a very limited government, for tax cuts, against saddling future generations with debt, and so on.

    So why is it that Gov. Jindal as a congressman and as governor has so many times went to Washington cup in hand for Federal taxpayer money for his state?

    Jindal asks Congress for aid; local levees on the list

    Kirsten B. Mitchell
    NYT Regional Media Group

    Published: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 3:00 p.m.
    Last Modified: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
    WASHINGTON — Gov. Bobby Jindal returned to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to plead with former colleagues for millions of dollars in federal disaster aid for hurricane-wrecked Louisiana.
    Jindal asks Congress for aid; local levees on the list | HoumaToday.com | The Courier | Houma, LA

    Jindal bragged in his speech about cutting taxes in Louisiana and talked about the moral imperative to not saddle future generations with debt.

    Sounds great huh. Well, he left something out. His gave his citizens a tax break while his state gets back a $1.78 in federal spending for every dollar its citizens pay for federal income taxes (and that does not even count Katrina money). The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxing and Spending Benefit Some States, Leave Others Paying Bill

    So basically, it seems that Jindal would rather taxpayers in other states pay for his state's needs, and future generations from other states get saddled with the debt.

    So, is he a hypocrite or not? Please explain your answer.
    Last edited by SouthernDemocrat; 02-25-09 at 02:43 PM.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ok, the following is an excerpt from Governor Jindal's speech:



    You can read the entire text of the speech here if you want: Full Text of Governor Bobby Jindal’s Response To President Obama’s Speech to Congress…

    But basically, its standard small government conservatism. He is advocating for a very limited government, for tax cuts, against saddling future generations with debt, and so on.

    So why is it that Gov. Jindal as a congressman and as governor has so many times went to Washington cup in hand for Federal taxpayer money for his state?



    Jindal asks Congress for aid; local levees on the list | HoumaToday.com | The Courier | Houma, LA

    Jindal bragged in his speech about cutting taxes in Louisiana and talked about the moral imperative to not saddle future generations with debt.

    Sounds great huh. Well, he left something out. His gave his citizens a tax break while his state gets back a $1.78 in federal spending for every dollar its citizens pay for federal income taxes (and that does not even count Katrina money). The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxing and Spending Benefit Some States, Leave Others Paying Bill

    So basically, it seems that Jindal would rather taxpayers in other states pay for his state's needs, and future generations from other states get saddled with the debt.

    So, is he a hypocrite or not? Please explain your answer.
    Why does Jindal ask for Federal money? Because he can. He may be against a lot of it, but face it - If it's there, he'll go for it. So would I. That doesn't mean he can't argue against it. If just about everyone else is getting a piece of it, then why not Louisiana? It does not make Jindal a hypocrite.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    yes, he is a hypocrite.

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ok, the following is an excerpt from Governor Jindal's speech:



    You can read the entire text of the speech here if you want: Full Text of Governor Bobby Jindal’s Response To President Obama’s Speech to Congress…

    But basically, its standard small government conservatism. He is advocating for a very limited government, for tax cuts, against saddling future generations with debt, and so on.

    So why is it that Gov. Jindal as a congressman and as governor has so many times went to Washington cup in hand for Federal taxpayer money for his state?



    Jindal asks Congress for aid; local levees on the list | HoumaToday.com | The Courier | Houma, LA

    Jindal bragged in his speech about cutting taxes in Louisiana and talked about the moral imperative to not saddle future generations with debt.

    Sounds great huh. Well, he left something out. His gave his citizens a tax break while his state gets back a $1.78 in federal spending for every dollar its citizens pay for federal income taxes (and that does not even count Katrina money). The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxing and Spending Benefit Some States, Leave Others Paying Bill

    So basically, it seems that Jindal would rather taxpayers in other states pay for his state's needs, and future generations from other states get saddled with the debt.

    So, is he a hypocrite or not? Please explain your answer.
    Unless I missed something, the report doesn't specify that it excludes Katrina money. It makes perfect sense that several of the highest ranks are southern states who were most affected by the disaster.

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Why does Jindal ask for Federal money? Because he can. He may be against a lot of it, but face it - If it's there, he'll go for it. So would I. That doesn't mean he can't argue against it. If just about everyone else is getting a piece of it, then why not Louisiana? It does not make Jindal a hypocrite.
    Were you able to write that with a straight face?

    Let's apply that defense to other situations:

    Why does Larry Craig ask for solicit gay sex in bathrooms? Because he can. He may be against gay sex, but face it - If it's there, he'll go for it. So would I. That doesn't mean he can't argue against it. If just about everyone else he knows is getting gay sex in public bathrooms, then why not Larry Craig? It does not make Larry Craig a hypocrite.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Unless I missed something, the report doesn't specify that it excludes Katrina money. It makes perfect sense that several of the highest ranks are southern states who were most affected by the disaster.
    Its the fiscal year before Katrina money started flowing.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its the fiscal year before Katrina money started flowing.
    So wait, he wasn't even governor yet?

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    So wait, he wasn't even governor yet?
    No, he was a congressman representing LA bringing home that 1.78 of pork for every dollar paid in.

    Thats the problem, his arguments are such a joke that even he can't live by them.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Carefully reading the text of Jindal's speech I find nothing that makes me believe he is a hypocrite.

    "Who among us would ask our children for a loan, so we could spend money we do not have, on things we do not need?"

    I think the rebuilding of a state devastated by something as major as a hurricane is needed. The state could have employed other methods of getting money like nationwide fundraising though, but that is no guarantee to get back enough money to recoup the costs and have enough left over to do the job it is meant to do.

    If the money was there in the federal government to help then I say take it. This was an emergency which the state of Louisiana was not at fault and it required assistance. The aid was not needed due to the irresponsibility of a state government.

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Not in the least. Correct me if I'm wrong but his speech didn't say the federal government should do nothing. That it has no roll in anything and should just be there to be a bump on a log.

    Financial Assistance after a major natural disaster is something that the federal government is set up and made for. Indeed, I agree fully with him asking more money for his state for that, as I'd MUCH rather my tax dollars going to a function the federal government should most definitely be a part of (giving financial assistance to states after a major natural disaster) then going to a state like California or Seatle to fund studying of bear DNA or the affects on the spotted owl population or something else of that sort.

    It does not make Bobby Jindal a hypocrite to work within the system. Has he said that all state governors should never ask for Federal money? Was that a principle he ran on? Did he run for governor by saying he'd do all he could for the people of Louisiana? If he did, then he'd be a liar if he didn't do this.

    I work in the federal government and I'll happily tell you how budgets work here.

    If a federal agency is approaching the end of the Fiscal Year and they have spent under their budget I'll tell you what doesn't happen. They don't go "Congress, our spending this year was a good 5% under our budget so next year we need you to reduce our budget by 5% to save the tax payers money."

    No, instead, there is generally a mass spending spree where pet projects are invested in, luxury supplies are bought, and other frivilous things are done to reach the maximum of the budget. This then allows the agency to go to the government that next year and say "See, we need a HIGHER budget".

    So we come to the current budget. As a governor, Jindal knows that that money is basically going to get spent one way or another once that budget is made. Its not being saved. Now, he can do one of two things. He can not request money for a legitimate purpose that the federal government was set up to help with thus having money not go to his constituents and instead likely going to funding something that is far less important on the scale of what the Federal Government is SUPPOSED to be providing....or....he can ask for that money, help the people of his state, and allow the federal government to do a job its actually meant to do.

    No, Bobby Jindal is not a hypocrite.
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