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Thread: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Carefully reading the text of Jindal's speech I find nothing that makes me believe he is a hypocrite.

    "Who among us would ask our children for a loan, so we could spend money we do not have, on things we do not need?"

    I think the rebuilding of a state devastated by something as major as a hurricane is needed. The state could have employed other methods of getting money like nationwide fundraising though, but that is no guarantee to get back enough money to recoup the costs and have enough left over to do the job it is meant to do.

    If the money was there in the federal government to help then I say take it. This was an emergency which the state of Louisiana was not at fault and it required assistance. The aid was not needed due to the irresponsibility of a state government.
    So then why cut taxes for his states citizens when you are still going to Washington and pleading for more taxpayer money? It seems to me that a small government true conservative would want his own state to pay for their needs and only ask the federal government for additional money if his state when his citizens could not afford to pay for it themselves. Right?
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    He is a politician, so there is a strong chance that he is a hypocrite. Though on this specific case I can see why the hypocrisy exists. One may be against large government, but that money is going out and why not get your State some of the pie especially when it's been wrecked so thoroughly? It takes a strong strong man, stronger than most politicians (almost all politicians...even Obama) to be able to stand on principle alone. His State was suffering, he went after the money that was being thrown out. He may work towards eradicating the irresponsible handing out of money in the future (yeah right...I don't buy that, so maybe he's not a hypocrite, maybe he's just a liar. He is a politician after all).

    Either or, I don't expect a lot of integrity and honesty out of government and our politicians, so it's nothing surprising.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its the fiscal year before Katrina money started flowing.
    So you're saying the federal government didn't send any aid until the next year??

    Additional $51.8 billion OK'd for federal aid package

    Hurricane Katrina has set the federal government on a spending spree. The total of $62 billion approved by Congress is already more than any amount spent on any previous domestic natural disaster. It's more than the budget for the Department of Homeland Security. And it will be spent within weeks.
    Does the report ignore spending in September now?

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He is a politician, so there is a strong chance that he is a hypocrite. Though on this specific case I can see why the hypocrisy exists. One may be against large government, but that money is going out and why not get your State some of the pie especially when it's been wrecked so thoroughly? It takes a strong strong man, stronger than most politicians (almost all politicians...even Obama) to be able to stand on principle alone. His State was suffering, he went after the money that was being thrown out. He may work towards eradicating the irresponsible handing out of money in the future (yeah right...I don't buy that, so maybe he's not a hypocrite, maybe he's just a liar. He is a politician after all).

    Either or, I don't expect a lot of integrity and honesty out of government and our politicians, so it's nothing surprising.
    So you see no hypocrisy in a small government conservative cutting his states taxes, all the while knowing his state gets far more in federal spending that it pays in, and pleading cup in hand for more federal tax dollars.

    Either the guy is a hypocrite, or this is perfectly illustrative of just how impractical the conservatism that him and others like him preach is.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    The aid was not needed due to the irresponsibility of a state government.
    I disagree. The state is responsible for inspecting the viability of the levy and recommending improvements be made.

    Investigators release preliminary findings of levee failures at Senate hearing

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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Show me where Jindal had said that states should never, ever accept federal aid, and I'll then agree that he is a hypocrite.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    So you're saying the federal government didn't send any aid until the next year??

    Additional $51.8 billion OK'd for federal aid package



    Does the report ignore spending in September now?
    The Federal Government Fiscal year ends in September.

    Fiscal Year - Definition of the U.S. Government Fiscal Year - FY 2006 FY 2007 FY 2008

    If you read your article, the spending went on to Fiscal 2006.

    That 1.78 for ever dollar paid in that LA got in Fiscal 2005 was pork that Jindal and his fellow LA congressional delegation brought home to his state.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    Show me where Jindal had said that states should never, ever accept federal aid, and I'll then agree that he is a hypocrite.
    You do not see hypocrisy in cutting taxes for your citizens while the federal taxpayers in other states send you 1.78 for every dollar you pay in?
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So then why cut taxes for his states citizens when you are still going to Washington and pleading for more taxpayer money? It seems to me that a small government true conservative would want his own state to pay for their needs and only ask the federal government for additional money if his state when his citizens could not afford to pay for it themselves. Right?
    Except you seem to be either misinformed about small government conservatism or just being intentionally naive.

    Very few conservatives that I know believe that small government = no government.

    The Federal Government is there for a variety of reasons that a singular state can't do well but a group can. Military is one of them. National Disaster assistance is another.

    The state struck by a National Disaster is ravaged, its economy turned upside down as are its people. While yes, I fault the city and state for not doing more BEFORE this and preparing to do things immedietely after, in the long run it falls more on the Federal level of things.

    If a state is hit with a massive disaster such as this reducing taxes helps put money back in the hands of its ravaged citizens allowing them to get back on their feet and reinvest into the economy.

    However, money is still needed to fix that economy. That is where the federal government comes in. That's one of the big purposes of the federal government and is something a Small Government conservative should not have much of an issue with a state seeking money for.

    If he was asking money to study the DNA of Louisiana Crocodiles instead of using state money, I'd agree, hypocrite.

    If he was asking for money to fund some state mueseum in New Orleans dedicated to the early people who lived there and made the port into what it is today, I'd agree, he's a hypocrite.

    But he wasn't. He was asking money for disaster releif, something that the Federal Government should be there to help with even for a Small Government Conservative. You use that money to help rebuild the infastructure and get people on their feet, while also cutting the taxes in your state to spur that economy and put further money in their hands to get back on their feet after a tragic, horrendous, natural disaster.
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    Re: Is Gov. Jindal a hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You do not see hypocrisy in cutting taxes for your citizens while the federal taxpayers in other states send you 1.78 for every dollar you pay in?
    Not at all, because this is a legitiamte needed service of the Federal Government and is exactly the type of thing our tax money should be going to.

    It is FAR more in line with conservative thinking that the tax money we pay to the federal government goes to a state that is striken by a horrendous natural disaster so that they can rebuild, regroup, and re-energize their economy than it is for that tax money to go to a bunch of people that made ****ty choices and took out loans of more money than they could handle to buy houses they can't afford.

    Your horrendous bastardize characterization of Conservatism and its stance on small government to make it seem like a No Government system is as idiotic as people saying a liberal philosophy is communism.
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