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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So you support tyranny of the majority?

    Just because the majority doesn't accept it doesn't make that lack of acceptance right.
    No, I was just pointing out Hatuey's inconsistency. Clearly he thinks the majority supports Roe vs. wade and somehow that's to bolster his "arguement" I'm just saying that doesn't matter.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Who said it should be acceptable because X people support it? Now that it is however legal in all 50 states it would indeed take the support of the American populace to reverse it. Something being legal does not mean it is acceptable however it would take the support of a majority to reverse it. Please stop your straw men?
    you did started it I'm afraid. Sure, it would take the support of the american populace, you just seem to think "oh well, majority of americans support Roe vs. Wade(though, really, I doubt it) so, the issue doesn't matter anymore".

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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    you did started it I'm afraid.
    Ummm not really. I stated that Jindal would have a tough time convincing the majority that Roe V. Wade should be overturned. That does not mean abortion is acceptable/unacceptable. What it does mean is that most people either don't care about it enough to overturn it or that they oppose overturning it.

    Sure, it would take the support of the american populace, you just seem to think "oh well, majority of americans support Roe vs. Wade(though, really, I doubt it) so, the issue doesn't matter anymore".
    No. What I do think is that Jindal doesn't have a chance in hell, and neither do any conservatives of overturning Roe v. Wade. The American people do not want to over turn it. And why would they? The religious have as many abortions as the non-religious in this country. They can cry all they want about the sanctity of life but they've benefited from abortion as much as everybody else. You keep quoting me on stuff I never said. Stop your straw men please.

    Christians Have as Many Abortions as Everyone Else, Catholics Have More

    A new study by The Center For Reason (www.centerforreason.com) finds that Christians have just as many abortions as their non-Christian counterparts. The study concludes that in the year 2000, Christians were responsible for 570,000 abortions. Catholics were found to be the worst offenders, with abortion rates higher than the national average.

    San Francisco, Calif. (PRWEB) March 12, 2006 -- With over one million abortions being performed in the US each year, this issue has dominated the political landscape. In recent years the rhetoric has escalated, with the pro-life movement becoming a flagship for Christian morality and ethics. The prevailing Christian doctrine--that abortion is murder--has polarized the issue, firmly placing the vast majority of Christians on the pro-life side of the debate.

    Incendiary comments by some of the more outspoken Christian figureheads have sought to portray abortion as an “evil” perpetrated by the non-Christian left. In response to this, The Center For Reason, a private research group, undertook a study to test the premise: “Christians have fewer abortions than non-Christians”. The results disproved the premise.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The religious have as many abortions as the non-religious in this country. They can cry all they want about the sanctity of life but they've benefited from abortion as much as everybody else. You keep quoting me on stuff I never said. Stop your straw men please.

    Christians Have as Many Abortions as Everyone Else, Catholics Have More
    Uh...did you look at the website of this "private research group" that supposedly "commissioned this report"

    www.centerforreason.com

    lol
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are they in Iran? I doubt that.
    Its a strange country rich people can pretty much live lives like people do in the west.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Could you imagine that an atheist or even a christian who believed in evolution can even make it on the GOP ticket?
    Depends what level. On a state level sure. Didn't former Republican Governor of New York, George Pataki accept evolution?

    I don't think it is possible for a major position like president. That is the main problem with the GOP, the fundamentalists and just the regular Christians have a hard time coming to terms with evolution.
    Apparently, despite using countless products derived from its sciences on a daily basis. One particular one is how evolution predicts where gas, coal and oil deposits will be based on where specific forms of life existed in the past. Chevron and others use geologists trained in the theory of evolution to find these deposits. Yet evolution deniers use these sources of fuel yet deny the science that helps companies bring energy to them. Doesn't make much sense.

    Also, many Christians don't have problems with evolution.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    ......that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth." -Barak Obama, Audacity of Hope.
    Trolling as usual?

    You do realize that Obama accepts evolution?

    And I specifically stated Young Earth Creationists. Nothing I stated actually discusses one's belief in a Christian God. Just one's interpretation of the world's origin and how that contridicts one's lifestyle.

    And I didn't vote for Obama.

    Good job on epic fail. As usual.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Uh...did you look at the website of this "private research group" that supposedly "commissioned this report"

    www.centerforreason.com

    lol
    Eh. The report is 3 years old anyways.

    From an anti-abortion website:
    Abortion Statistics

    "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.;

    Catholic women account for 31.3%,

    Jewish women account for 1.3%,

    and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions.

    18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"."
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So you support tyranny of the majority?

    Just because the majority doesn't accept it doesn't make that lack of acceptance right.
    Yes but the solution to that problem is not the judicial activism of a liberal committee of public safety to bend the constitution, precedent and tradition to create social policy and law to suit libs.

    Anyway tyranny of the majority has rarely been solved by giving power to a minority.
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    Re: Is Jindal the new face of the GOP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Yes but the solution to that problem is not the judicial activism of a liberal committee of public safety to bend the constitution, precedent and tradition to create social policy and law to suit libs.
    But that depends on how you define "bend." Btw, desegregation and the striking down of bans on interracial marriage, both where the public was against it were indeed what you state. Are you against those?

    Just because we don't like it as a majority doesn't make our stance correct.
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