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Racist or not Racist.

Which of these pictures are Racist?


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Picture A:


ObamaMonkey.jpg




Racist or not?















Picture B:

bush_monkey.jpg


Racist? Not Racist?
 
Neither is racist but they are both assholish comparisons.

Sort of like this one:

michelleobamazira.jpg
 
Neither is racist but they are both assholish comparisons.

Sort of like this one:

michelleobamazira.jpg

I hate to admit it, but that one is kind of funny in a hair style sort of way.
 
Based on the history of comparing black people to monkeys, in terms of appearance, intelligence, ability, etc... The first one could very easily be racist, and is probably how it is originally interpreted by just about anyone that looks at it, but I don't think it's inherently racist, as I don't think it's possible for anything to be "inherently" racist. Communication is not based simply on the presentation of sensation (talking/hearing, hand gestures/seeing, etc...) but on the relations between these presentations. This is why I also don't consider words to be inherently racist. The term "nigger" for example is not racist in the context that I have used it in this sentence.

As for the second presented image, I don't see how that could be construed as racist in any meaningful way.

Or was this some weak attempt at "proving" "reverse racism"?
 
Based on the history of comparing black people to monkeys, in terms of appearance, intelligence, ability, etc... The first one could very easily be racist, and is probably how it is originally interpreted by just about anyone that looks at it, but I don't think it's inherently racist, as I don't think it's possible for anything to be "inherently" racist. Communication is not based simply on the presentation of sensation (talking/hearing, hand gestures/seeing, etc...) but on the relations between these presentations. This is why I also don't consider words to be inherently racist. The term "nigger" for example is not racist in the context that I have used it in this sentence.

As for the second presented image, I don't see how that could be construed as racist in any meaningful way.

Or was this some weak attempt at "proving" "reverse racism"?




How did I vote and knowing that now, do you want to rephrase this?
 
Black people have frequently been compared to monkeys in a derogatory manner, while white people have not. Asking us to judge the two examples to be equal is expecting us to forget, you know, history.
 
Black people have frequently been compared to monkeys in a derogatory manner, while white people have not. Asking us to judge the two examples to be equal is expecting us to forget, you know, history.

Except that some of us have moved well beyond a period of history we never lived.

If it's okay to compare a white man to a monkey, then in the interest of fairness it should be okay to compare a black man to a monkey, too. It's not like anyone is offering the man fried chicken, grape soda, and watermelon while wearing blackface.
 
Black people have frequently been compared to monkeys in a derogatory manner, while white people have not. Asking us to judge the two examples to be equal is expecting us to forget, you know, history.

And presidents and politicians have been historically compared to monkeys as well.
 
Except that some of us have moved well beyond a period of history we never lived.

If it's okay to compare a white man to a monkey, then in the interest of fairness it should be okay to compare a black man to a monkey, too. It's not like anyone is offering the man fried chicken, grape soda, and watermelon while wearing blackface.






Exactly. Where is the line of saying "OK this is done". I never owned a slave or compared a black man to a monkey because of his race.


Why is one ok, yet the otherone not ok? Isn't it time we moved passed this?
 
Black people have frequently been compared to monkeys in a derogatory manner, while white people have not. Asking us to judge the two examples to be equal is expecting us to forget, you know, history.

I call my very white kids monkeys all the time. I've never called an African American a monkey and I have never been in the presence of anyone else doing so.
 
Exactly. Where is the line of saying "OK this is done". I never owned a slave or compared a black man to a monkey because of his race.


Why is one ok, yet the otherone not ok? Isn't it time we moved passed this?

As far as I'm concerned Obama finished it. He got elected. We elected him. An African American person can become anything even President. So it's over. I won't tolerate any more whining, I refuse to walk on egg shells, you don't get to be a victim anymore unless the offense against you is blatant and obvious. We're even steven. It's over. Finished. White people can now just drop the guilt. Put it down and walk away. African American men have now surpassed women. You don't get to whine no more. Done.
 
And presidents and politicians have been historically compared to monkeys as well.

And consistently in a derogatory way, of course, that casts a negative light on their intelligence or job performance. However, throughout much of our history a black person didn't have to have sub par intelligence in order to earn the monkey reference. All they had to do was be black. That's why the first set of pictures is racist. And it's not just in the past, as the monkey/Barak or Michelle comparison is used to this day (and in this thread).

I find it interesting that some of the people (I'm not referring to you, Tucker) who've made the most racial epithets in the past year or so have the most trouble understanding this.
 
I'm not sure, since I'm not natively Chinese, but if I had to guess, comparing somebody to a monkey could actually be a compliment. Monkeys are considered very clever in Chinese folklore.

With that said, you're all ****ing monkeys in my book! :2wave:
 
And consistently in a derogatory way, of course, that casts a negative light on their intelligence or job performance. However, throughout much of our history a black person didn't have to have sub par intelligence in order to earn the monkey reference. All they had to do was be black. That's why the first set of pictures is racist. And it's not just in the past, as the monkey/Barak or Michelle comparison is used to this day (and in this thread).

I find it interesting that some of the people (I'm not referring to you, Tucker) who've made the most racial epithets in the past year or so have the most trouble understanding this
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WTF are you talking about kojack? :rofl
 
Exactly. Where is the line of saying "OK this is done". I never owned a slave or compared a black man to a monkey because of his race.


Why is one ok, yet the otherone not ok? Isn't it time we moved passed this?

There is a segment of our society who will never move on because they cannot market their ideas to any sensible body of listeners and so they need the racism crutch to shout down and vilify their opponents. They'll never let it go until it stops working for them which is why I, as one lone person, simply refuse to acknowledge their idiocy any longer.

I wish the rest of the country would do the same.
 
And consistently in a derogatory way, of course, that casts a negative light on their intelligence or job performance. However, throughout much of our history a black person didn't have to have sub par intelligence in order to earn the monkey reference. All they had to do was be black. That's why the first set of pictures is racist. And it's not just in the past, as the monkey/Barak or Michelle comparison is used to this day (and in this thread).

I find it interesting that some of the people (I'm not referring to you, Tucker) who've made the most racial epithets in the past year or so have the most trouble understanding this.

Nope. Michelle and Obama are not victims. You can't make them be victims. You can't put them in the role of a victim. They are now the MOST POWERFUL couple in the world.

So either it's offensive to call ANY politician a monkey or it's no big deal to call any of them monkeys. Take you pick. Obama has proven that racism isn't a issue that can really touch him. It certainly wasn't powerful enough in this country to keep him from getting elected. He is powerful, the exact opposite of weak. Don't put your feelings of racism on him or his wife. Don't whine for them. I don't think they'd want you to.
 
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Oh the poor white people, they can't compare black people to monkey's even though racism and all of its legacy is obviously over since we have a black president. Oh the poor, persecuted white people... :roll:

What is it with everyone's need anymore to feel as though they are being discriminated against and persecuted.

I'm Catholic and we were discriminated against in the south.

I'm Irish and we were discriminated against.

I'm an evangelical and we are persecuted.

I am a conservative and I am being persecuted on campus because others choose not to listen to me.

I am a liberal and I am being discriminated against on talk radio because they don't give me equal time.

I am white and I am being discriminated against because I get called out for using an old racist comparison in a political cartoon, plus they give all the good jobs to blacks now.

I am black and I am being discriminated against because no one wants to go to my failing and crime ridden school.

I am Mexican and I am being discriminated against because people actually want me to follow the law when trying to come to America.

Blah, blah, blah....

Comparing a black man to a monkey is racist. Its racist because for 200 years that has been a racist comparison. Just because someone did so and were called out about it does not constitute some muzzling of white people, and thus persecution of whites. So quit whining.
 
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