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Source for his loving bananas please. :lol:
It is indeed.
And as for the thread as a whole, look everybody: I’m as much for a race-less society as any of you. Race is more or less a fiction used to divide people. But to pretend that racism is dead, or even to pretend that institutionalized racism is dead is not only ludicrous, but dangerous. It’s akin to celebrating the eradication of small pox before the job is done.
From racial profiling by police, to the insane incarceration rates of black men, to harsher sentences for the same crimes, to the racists you describe as “Joe” being very politically active, to things as simple as the drastic steps homeowners associations take to keep the neighborhood “desirable,” institutionalized racism is alive and well in America. I wish it weren’t so.
This thread is full of racism
Where does culture come from? Is it not a response to the political environment that we find ourselves in? The problems in Black culture, and I admit there are many, emerged as a response to a hostile political system, from slavery to Jim Crow, to Reagan, to capitalism itself. You should learn to attribute these things to a history of oppresion, rather the presumed racial inferiority you currently attribute it to.The top three causes of death for 15-24 year old black males. 2004
http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/04black.pdf
Homicide, death by unintentional injury, and suicide. Nothing wrong with this culture, they're just misunderstood. Who's killing all these young males? The guys in prison maybe? A culture that produces statistics like this is broken. Blaming it off on someone else will never fix the problem.
Where does culture come from? Is it not a response to the political environment that we find ourselves in? The problems in Black culture, and I admit there are many, emerged as a response to a hostile political system, from slavery to Jim Crow, to Reagan, to capitalism itself. You should learn to attribute these things to a history of oppresion, rather the presumed racial inferiority you currently attribute it to.
Without the most basic human rights (which Black American people have technically enjoyed for nearly 45 years now) crime is not much of an issue. So only after blacks achieved emancipation from slavery and legally sanctioned oppresion did the "decline" begin? And when technical, legal (though obviously not substantive or institutional) equality was achieved, all of the inequalities and problems inflicted on Black culture from the outside are presumed to have vanished instantly? And no violence or crime committed by people within the Black community should have been expected? I suggest not. I suggest that the economic inequality fueled by slavery, seggregation, Jim Crow and so forth is still largely in place. As is the notion enforced over the centuries (yes, even now in the Obama era) that Black people are not really allowed or expected to have much of a viable place in the system. The poverty inflicted on the Black community perpetuates the violence you speak of.If the statistics had been thus during the most oppressive racial injustice I would agree to some extent with your hostile political theory, but not so. The less oppression the worse the statistics. While the blacks were being outwardly discriminated against they tended not to kill each other at these rates, and their test scores were equal to or superior to the white schools before forced integration. Only after white liberals began to insist that they must be helped did the real decline begin.
If a Black leader with the character of MLK jr. stepped out from the huddle today, consevatives would denounce him or her as an Un-American socialst, and he or she would probably be assassinated very quickly.If a black leader with the character of MLK jr. stepped out from the huddle today and begin calling the plays, there would be nothing but forward progress.
Without the most basic human rights (which Black American people have technically enjoyed for nearly 45 years now) crime is not much of an issue. So only after blacks achieved emancipation from slavery and legally sanctioned oppresion did the "decline" begin? And when technical, legal (though obviously not substantive or institutional) equality was achieved, all of the inequalities and problems inflicted on Black culture from the outside are presumed to have vanished instantly? And no violence or crime committed by people within the Black community should have been expected? I suggest not. I suggest that the economic inequality fueled by slavery, seggregation, Jim Crow and so forth is still largely in place. As is the notion enforced over the centuries (yes, even now in the Obama era) that Black people are not really allowed or expected to have much of a viable place in the system. The poverty inflicted on the Black community perpetuates the violence you speak of.
When a system fails to provide adequate representation to a given group the result is the formation of organized crime and gangs. When a system fails to provide adequate economic opportunity to a group, the result is the pursuit of illegal trade such as the drug trade. This is not unique to Black people or Black culture.
The echoes of a history of violence and oppression against Black people have their effects today. And besides that, the American capitalist system continues to offer inadequate representation and inadequate economic opportunity to the Black community. The negative aspects of Black culture that you blame for all these problems are a symptom of the negative aspects of capitalism.
If a Black leader with the character of MLK jr. stepped out from the huddle today, consevatives would denounce him or her as an Un-American socialst, and he or she would probably be assassinated very quickly.
I would watch your tongue, MLK was a registered republican and no conservatives would not label him a socialist, if anything republicans would back Martin. Blacks were not being affored there rights promised to them under the constitution, anybody who believes in upholding the constitution would side with Martin.
I didn't grow up in America but I always end up raising eyebrows because I don't know what is consider offensive and racist. I can see this upsetting people but not the New Yorker cartoon, congress was behind the stimulus bill, not Obama.
Anyway here is a fun story. I was talking to my black neighbor, I'm white, we live at the edge of the woods and I tell her, "Hey, I left my light on last night and there was at least 10 'coons (racoons) rumbling over the bread I throw out there last night."
Coons is a derogatory term for blacks and I did not know that. Heh, :Oopsie She was very nice about it too by the way.
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Racist or not?
It is indeed.
And as for the thread as a whole, look everybody: I’m as much for a race-less society as any of you. Race is more or less a fiction used to divide people. But to pretend that racism is dead, or even to pretend that institutionalized racism is dead is not only ludicrous, but dangerous. It’s akin to celebrating the eradication of small pox before the job is done.
From racial profiling by police, to the insane incarceration rates of black men, to harsher sentences for the same crimes, to the racists you describe as “Joe” being very politically active, to things as simple as the drastic steps homeowners associations take to keep the neighborhood “desirable,” institutionalized racism is alive and well in America. I wish it weren’t so.
I didn't grow up in America but I always end up raising eyebrows because I don't know what is consider offensive and racist. I can see this upsetting people but not the New Yorker cartoon, congress was behind the stimulus bill, not Obama.
Anyway here is a fun story. I was talking to my black neighbor, I'm white, we live at the edge of the woods and I tell her, "Hey, I left my light on last night and there was at least 10 'coons (racoons) rumbling over the bread I throw out there last night."
Coons is a derogatory term for blacks and I did not know that. Heh, :Oopsie She was very nice about it too by the way.
Coons is a derogatory term for blacks and I did not know that. Heh, :Oopsie She was very nice about it too by the way.
I am sure he did, he still viewed her racist behavior as "typical of white people" as though he was excusing it because we are such racists. :roll:
Lol, i have never heard of 'coon' before, is it that offensive to blacks?
Every so-called "derogatory" you think you know for black people...they used all the time on each other.
Lol, i have never heard of 'coon' before, is it that offensive to blacks?
jallman said:Hysterical race baiters swaddled in their own dishonesty will often fail to grasp the fact that it was democrats who stood against desegregation and the whole civil rights movement. Funny how they forget the true injustices when offered a "gimme" or a handout by the same people later.
thabigred said:I would watch your tongue, MLK was a registered republican and no conservatives would not label him a socialist, if anything republicans would back Martin. Blacks were not being affored there rights promised to them under the constitution, anybody who believes in upholding the constitution would side with Martin.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:Well, let's see...
We got a black guy as President, if the rumors about his birth in Hawaii are proven true.
We got a black guy as Attorney General.
...
Really, one can't name a niche in the public fabric of America that doesn't have it's share of successful black people in it.
The only place racism is known to still exist is the NAACP, the KKK, and the Democrat party.
Hysterical race baiters swaddled in their own dishonesty will often fail to grasp the fact that it was democrats who stood against desegregation and the whole civil rights movement. Funny how they forget the true injustices when offered a "gimme" or a handout by the same people later.
Without the most basic human rights (which Black American people have technically enjoyed for nearly 45 years now) crime is not much of an issue. So only after blacks achieved emancipation from slavery and legally sanctioned oppresion did the "decline" begin? And when technical, legal (though obviously not substantive or institutional) equality was achieved, all of the inequalities and problems inflicted on Black culture from the outside are presumed to have vanished instantly? And no violence or crime committed by people within the Black community should have been expected? I suggest not. I suggest that the economic inequality fueled by slavery, seggregation, Jim Crow and so forth is still largely in place. As is the notion enforced over the centuries (yes, even now in the Obama era) that Black people are not really allowed or expected to have much of a viable place in the system. The poverty inflicted on the Black community perpetuates the violence you speak of.
When a system fails to provide adequate representation to a given group the result is the formation of organized crime and gangs. When a system fails to provide adequate economic opportunity to a group, the result is the pursuit of illegal trade such as the drug trade. This is not unique to Black people or Black culture.
The echoes of a history of violence and oppression against Black people have their effects today. And besides that, the American capitalist system continues to offer inadequate representation and inadequate economic opportunity to the Black community. The negative aspects of Black culture that you blame for all these problems are a symptom of the negative aspects of capitalism.
If a Black leader with the character of MLK jr. stepped out from the huddle today, consevatives would denounce him or her as an Un-American socialst, and he or she would probably be assassinated very quickly.
MLK did not teach to demand special treatment to make up for the past. His view was simple equality, the rest was up to the individual.
Why we can't wait - Google Book Search"Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."
"No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law."
Let the Trumpet Sound: A Life of ... - Google Book SearchA society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro"