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Thread: Racist or not Racist.

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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Exactly. Where is the line of saying "OK this is done". I never owned a slave or compared a black man to a monkey because of his race.


    Why is one ok, yet the otherone not ok? Isn't it time we moved passed this?
    There is a segment of our society who will never move on because they cannot market their ideas to any sensible body of listeners and so they need the racism crutch to shout down and vilify their opponents. They'll never let it go until it stops working for them which is why I, as one lone person, simply refuse to acknowledge their idiocy any longer.

    I wish the rest of the country would do the same.

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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I'm not sure, since I'm not natively Chinese, but if I had to guess, comparing somebody to a monkey could actually be a compliment. Monkeys are considered very clever in Chinese folklore.

    With that said, you're all ****ing monkeys in my book!


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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And consistently in a derogatory way, of course, that casts a negative light on their intelligence or job performance. However, throughout much of our history a black person didn't have to have sub par intelligence in order to earn the monkey reference. All they had to do was be black. That's why the first set of pictures is racist. And it's not just in the past, as the monkey/Barak or Michelle comparison is used to this day (and in this thread).

    I find it interesting that some of the people (I'm not referring to you, Tucker) who've made the most racial epithets in the past year or so have the most trouble understanding this.
    Nope. Michelle and Obama are not victims. You can't make them be victims. You can't put them in the role of a victim. They are now the MOST POWERFUL couple in the world.

    So either it's offensive to call ANY politician a monkey or it's no big deal to call any of them monkeys. Take you pick. Obama has proven that racism isn't a issue that can really touch him. It certainly wasn't powerful enough in this country to keep him from getting elected. He is powerful, the exact opposite of weak. Don't put your feelings of racism on him or his wife. Don't whine for them. I don't think they'd want you to.
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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    That was to be expected, especially when you know Kung Fu.
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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Oh the poor white people, they can't compare black people to monkey's even though racism and all of its legacy is obviously over since we have a black president. Oh the poor, persecuted white people...

    What is it with everyone's need anymore to feel as though they are being discriminated against and persecuted.

    I'm Catholic and we were discriminated against in the south.

    I'm Irish and we were discriminated against.

    I'm an evangelical and we are persecuted.

    I am a conservative and I am being persecuted on campus because others choose not to listen to me.

    I am a liberal and I am being discriminated against on talk radio because they don't give me equal time.

    I am white and I am being discriminated against because I get called out for using an old racist comparison in a political cartoon, plus they give all the good jobs to blacks now.

    I am black and I am being discriminated against because no one wants to go to my failing and crime ridden school.

    I am Mexican and I am being discriminated against because people actually want me to follow the law when trying to come to America.

    Blah, blah, blah....

    Comparing a black man to a monkey is racist. Its racist because for 200 years that has been a racist comparison. Just because someone did so and were called out about it does not constitute some muzzling of white people, and thus persecution of whites. So quit whining.
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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And consistently in a derogatory way, of course, that casts a negative light on their intelligence or job performance. However, throughout much of our history a black person didn't have to have sub par intelligence in order to earn the monkey reference. All they had to do was be black. That's why the first set of pictures is racist. And it's not just in the past, as the monkey/Barak or Michelle comparison is used to this day (and in this thread).
    I don't know about that. I called Bush a chimp because he actually looked like one. Those pics speak for themselves. Dude looks like a chimp.

    I find it interesting that some of the people (I'm not referring to you, Tucker) who've made the most racial epithets in the past year or so have the most trouble understanding this.
    I say cracker and honky a lot because I think it's funny.

    And I understand why people think it's racist, but I think that the themselves are ignoring the fact that intent is of primacy in racism.

    If I call Patrick Ewing a gorilla lookin' dude, it's not because he's black, it's because he actually does look kind of like a gorilla. If I say Bush looks like a chimp, it's because the dude looks like a chimp.

    Not being racist, I make these observations independent of race.

    The fact that other people do something for nefarious reasons doesn't change the reasons why I do something.

    If we stop doing things to Obama that we might do to Bush, simply because Obama is black, then we are actually engaging in racism AGAINST blacks.

    If I choose to change my behavior because of the person's race, then I'm arbitrarily denying them something I would give a white person.

    This is just as true with negative things as it is of positive things.

    Applying racism in this context presumes the motivations for the chimp comparisons are different for the black president than they were for the white president, which may or may not be true.

    Simply labelling it as racism BEFORE one understands the motivations, is in fact racist because it is denying the black man something based on race and race alone. Even if the thing being denied is in fact a negative thing, the motivations behind the denial of this thing being the arbitrary racial characteristics means that it is still racist.
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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Nope. Michelle and Obama are not victims. You can't make them be victims. You can't put them in the role of a victim. They are now the MOST POWERFUL couple in the world.

    So either it's offensive to call ANY politician a monkey or it's no big deal to call any of them monkeys. Take you pick. Obama has proven that racism isn't a issue that can really touch him. It certainly wasn't powerful enough in this country to keep him from getting elected. He is powerful, the exact opposite of weak. Don't put your feelings of racism on him or his wife. Don't whine for them. I don't think they'd want you to.
    Re-read my post with the assumption that I'm not being emotional in any way, and without the idea that I believe that the Obamas "need my help."

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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Oh the poor white people, they can't compare black people to monkey's even though racism and all of its legacy is obviously over since we have a black president. Oh the poor, persecuted white people...

    What is it with everyone's need anymore to feel as though they are being discriminated against and persecuted.

    I'm Catholic and we were discriminated against in the south.

    I'm Irish and we were discriminated against.

    I'm an evangelical and we are persecuted.

    I am a conservative and I am being persecuted on campus because others choose not to listen to me.

    I am a liberal and I am being discriminated against on talk radio because they don't give me equal time.

    I am white and I am being discriminated against because I get called out for using an old racist comparison in a political cartoon, plus they give all the good jobs to blacks now.

    I am black and I am being discriminated against because no one wants to go to my failing and crime ridden school.

    I am Mexican and I am being discriminated against because people actually want me to follow the law when trying to come to America.

    Blah, blah, blah....

    Comparing a black man to a monkey is racist. Its racist because for 200 years that has been a racist comparison. Just because someone did so and were called out about it does not constitute some muzzling of white people, and thus persecution of whites. So quit whining.
    Except that it's time to just "let it go". When I am in a crowd and someone starts talking about flaming florist chorus line homos, I don't get the slightest bit offended because, though I am gay, none of those descriptions fit me.

    If Obama is being compared to a monkey, why is the knee jerk reaction to say "that's racist against blacks". No it's not retards, it's assholish against Obama.

    Unless you really do think all blacks are comparable to monkeys or something.

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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Re-read my post with the assumption that I'm not being emotional in any way, and without the idea that I believe that the Obamas "need my help."
    Except that you were...

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    Re: Racist or not Racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Except that it's time to just "let it go". When I am in a crowd and someone starts talking about flaming florist chorus line homos, I don't get the slightest bit offended because, though I am gay, none of those descriptions fit me.

    If Obama is being compared to a monkey, why is the knee jerk reaction to say "that's racist against blacks". No it's not retards, it's assholish against Obama.

    Unless you really do think all blacks are comparable to monkeys or something.
    So by that argument, the following statement is not racist:

    "Black people are all lazy!"

    Because by your reasoning, if you are black yet not lazy, the statement cannot be racist because it doesn't apply to you.
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