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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    No. Rights vs. Privileges, eh?
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    fyi Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I wanted to wait until later but since you asked.

    I am glad my state(Oklahoma) respects the second amendment.

    Illinois General Assembly - Bill Status for HB0687

    Bill Status of HB0687 96th General Assembly
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    Short Description: FIREARM OWNERS ID-INSURANCE

    House Sponsors
    Rep. Kenneth Dunkin

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    2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee

    Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
    430 ILCS 65/4.5 new
    430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8


    Synopsis As Introduced
    Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Provides that a person shall be deemed the owner of a firearm after the firearm is lost or stolen until such loss or theft is reported to the police department or sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Provides that the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act if the Department finds that the person to whom such card was issued possesses or acquires a firearm and does not submit evidence to the Department of State Police that he or she has been issued in his or her name a liability insurance policy in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Effective January 1, 2010.
    Rep. Kenneth Dunkin is an absolute IDIOT! He is NOT an American. How about exiling him to Zimbabwe?

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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What if you don't have the right to bare arms? You are a criminal, mentally handicapped, or a child.

    If licensing is not put into practice how are those restrictions to be enforced if there is no way for gun sellers to tell that your right to bare arms is restricted?

    If you can offer another alternative I would most likely before it. I just can't fathom another way to stop restricted individuals from openly purchasing guns that are illegal for them to own.

    why don't we make people get insurance before voting. There are voting rights restrictions too and idiots voting irresponsibly have caused more damage than gun rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Mostly because the right to bare arms is the only right that you can be legally denied. Not all citizens have the right to bare arms.

    There is no such restriction on free speech, religion, etc.
    Bear arms not Bare arms.

    ANd now there are other rights that can be legally denied- YOu clearly have no clue about rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You are talking about two different things here.
    LICENSING is a precondition not inherent to the right, and thus, an infringement.
    BACKGROUND CHECKS are a form of prior restraint, and thus, an infringement.
    background checks are not an infringment to law abiding citizens with the mental capacity to properly use firearms....it is only an infringement to those who should not have them....
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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    background checks are not an infringment to law abiding citizens with the mental capacity to properly use firearms....it is only an infringement to those who should not have them....
    perhaps perhaps not. If you are delayed because of a glitch than it is an infringement.
    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    perhaps perhaps not. If you are delayed because of a glitch than it is an infringement.
    the "infringement" you are worried about is essential to keep guns out of the wrong hands, pedophile out of certain jobs that involve children, unstable people from becoming nuclear power plant operators, etc.
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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why don't we make people get insurance before voting.
    If you think we should go for it. I personally don't think insurance is required for voting or gun control.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There are voting rights restrictions too and idiots voting irresponsibly have caused more damage than gun rights.
    How exactly would you compare the harm done by voting in a politician vs the harm done by killing someone?
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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    background checks are not an infringment to law abiding citizens....
    Background checkls are a form of prior restraint.
    They are, therefore, and infringement.

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    Re: Should you have to purchase insurance to exercise constitutional rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Background checkls are a form of prior restraint.
    They are, therefore, and infringement.
    so when you get shot by someone who got a weapon without a background check, and would have been denied that weapon, who is to blame?


    we don't rule by who has the most powerful weapons, but by the ballot box....
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