View Poll Results: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

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  • Yes they are stereotypical liberals and they are douche bags.

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Please, it's basic labor. Today's Wal-Mart is directly analogous to yesterdays manufacturing plant. Wal-Mart shuts down all the competing businesses in an area so that it becomes the sole (or at least commands such a large amount that it can dictate terms) employer of low-skilled labor.

    There's such a concept of monopoly of employment as well as monopoly of production.

    And you can argue "well there are still other jobs". This is partially true, even though there are inevitably vastly less) but they all have to compete with Wal-Mart and will be forced to adopt similarly abusive practices.

    This is why no one wants to live in an unregulated or even lightly regulated capitalist society: competition does not always lead towards a benefit from an overall perspective.

    Two excellent examples: missile stockpiling and male walruses.

    No one wants the world to have 10,000 nuclear missiles. If the US and the Soviet Union both had 100 missiles each, it'd be effectively the same balance as 5,000 missiles each- except that it would limit the destruction if WWIII every occurred. But because both parties were locked into competition and couldn't be controlled by any outside source, both parties developed stockpiles that neither really wanted.

    Male walruses. Female walruses are attracted to the biggest male. Therefore the bigger you are the more mates you have. Unfortunately being a 10 foot long, 2 ton walrus is actually very bad for you. Some male walruses get so big their bones actually collapse in on themselves because they can't support the weight. It'd be better if they were all fifty percent their size and it wouldn't change the balance of competition, but it would make for some more comfortable male walruses.

    No one wants to destroy main street, create an endless mire of working class poverty and make all American consumer goods worthless crap that's made in China.

    But all it takes is the American publics pathological consumerism and one firm who is willing to cut any corner to create "Everyday Low Prices" and then everyone has to compete against them and everyone must adopt their practices.

    This is why capitalism does not allow for choice or freedom.

    Government regulation allows a degree of restriction upon the producer to allow a degree of freedom to return to the consumer and employee.

    Right now we have 25 foot long 7 ton walruses that all have 10,000 missile silos on high alert, at all times.

    We basically need to reboot American capitalism so that it returns to a more genuinely competitive era.
    Last edited by new coup for you; 02-23-09 at 01:32 PM.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    It's also hilarious, but not that surprising, that you actually think that these people (who are major douches, by the way) are stereotypical Liberals.
    I'm almost embarrassed to admit I've watched several episodes of this train wreck of a TV show. Oh well...

    With that, you've hit the nail on the head here. Nearly all the couples who appear on this show are major douches, with few exceptions. If they were typical, middle-of-the-road American families, there'd be nothing to watch.


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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I'm almost embarrassed to admit I've watched several episodes of this train wreck of a TV show. Oh well...

    With that, you've hit the nail on the head here. Nearly all the couples who appear on this show are major douches, with few exceptions. If they were typical, middle-of-the-road American families, there'd be nothing to watch.

    Oh come on...that show is great braindead entertainment. It's like visiting a freak show for an hour a week.

    The episode with the warrior of god woman from backswamp country was awesome!!!

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I'm almost embarrassed to admit I've watched several episodes of this train wreck of a TV show. Oh well...

    With that, you've hit the nail on the head here. Nearly all the couples who appear on this show are major douches, with few exceptions. If they were typical, middle-of-the-road American families, there'd be nothing to watch.

    I watch shows like this regularly and kind of hang my head in shame for doing so. What can I say? People love sensationalism and I'm no different. It's like watching a car wreck. You don't want to watch, but you can't turn away. Though, it's rather hypocritical of me to criticize such shows and watch them at the same time. If I truly cared about it and had enough will power I could just shut the tv off, which is what I really should be doing in the first place.

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh come on...that show is great braindead entertainment. It's like visiting a freak show for an hour a week.

    The episode with the warrior of god woman from backswamp country was awesome!!!
    She used to have an official website with pictures of her and B-list actors who had kind of ashamed looks on their faces. She tried to become an actress if I recall correctly and that obviously didn't pan out.

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    She used to have an official website with pictures of her and B-list actors who had kind of ashamed looks on their faces. She tried to become an actress if I recall correctly and that obviously didn't pan out.
    What was her name? Marguerite or something like that.

    I have to admit, I was in the floor laughing my ass off by the end of that episode.

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And Republicans tend to treat the economy more sensibly overall and oppose unions for that reason...free market and all that.

    Organized and "self concious" labor tends to get duped more frequently because they are looking for someone to promise them a bigger cut than they deserve. They'll jump at whoever tells them the most convincing and appetizing lie.
    Republicans fight the unions because the unions make it impossible for Republicans to lie, cheat, and steal effectively.

    Union contracts prevent employee abuse --- big business hates this as much as they hate jury trials (they generally lose because juries tend to side with the underdog).

    Anytime business it prevented from sodomizing their employees they get pissed off and call those employees "scum".

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What was her name? Marguerite or something like that.

    I have to admit, I was in the floor laughing my ass off by the end of that episode.


    Yep, Marguerite Perrin. She even has a myspace with a mix version of her screaming her "god warrior" stuff set to low-fi casio beats.

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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    No one wants the world to have 10,000 nuclear missiles. If the US and the Soviet Union both had 100 missiles each, it'd be effectively the same balance as 5,000 missiles each- except that it would limit the destruction if WWIII every occurred. But because both parties were locked into competition and couldn't be controlled by any outside source, both parties developed stockpiles that neither really wanted.
    Your entire post was so long that it would be fruitless to respond to all of it. But I highlighted just one bit since it has about as much merit as the rest of your analysis. It reflects an idealistically naive view of history, worldwide conflict, and military strategy, sorry.

    The balance of power would be effectively the same if each side had 100 missiles? Really? Would that also make for a more effective deterrence? How about if each side had 50 missiles? Or only 10? Also an effective deterrence? And how would those 100 or 50 or 10 nuclear warheads be distributed? Would they all be land-based in silos? Or carried by bombers? Or submarines? Or doesn't it really matter, because as you indicate, 'no one wants the world to have 10,000 nuclear missiles,' so therefore anything less than 10,000 must, by definition, be preferable?

    Your walrus example wasn't much more convincing.


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    Re: Are the people in these videos stereotypical liberals?

    Do you think anyone in the US would tolerate even 5 nuclear missiles going off inside the US?
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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