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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Besides, if the government based tax rates on cost of living, then how would all the welfare queen red states survive with out all that money coming in from places like New York.
    This is spurious partisan nonsense. This says nothing of who the money is actually going to or to what purpose said money is being allocated.

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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Your kidding right?


    If ever I heard a ms. America response this is it......




    The market DOES NOT DICTATE when the government is in charge......


    The government. The LIBERAL BLOOMBERG government sets public servant salaries..... go ahead, and say this is not big nanny .gov's fault.
    The market still is the driving force behind government wages, even though it may not match up exactly with the private sector. If there is a shortage of people willing to perform a certain government job, more money will usually do the trick. Just like any other job.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The market still is the driving force behind government wages, even though it may not match up exactly. If there is a shortage of people willing to perform a certain government job, more money will usually do the trick. Just like any other job.
    Please to be showing me a real world example of your theory.......


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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Please to be showing me a real world example of your theory.......
    This is pretty basic economics. If more money encourages more people to become engineers for Microsoft, why wouldn't more money also encourage more people to become teachers for Chicago? Why would government employees be immune to caring about their salary? Supply and demand don't cease to exist just because the government is the one doling out the cash. And you sound like Fidel Castro when you try to argue to the contrary.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This is pretty basic economics. If more money encourages more people to become engineers for Microsoft, why wouldn't more money also encourage more people to become teachers for Chicago? Why would government employees be immune to caring about their salary? Supply and demand don't cease to exist just because the government is the one doling out the cash. And you sound like Fidel Castro when you try to argue to the contrary.



    Please to be showing me a real world example of your theory.......




    I still do not see it.


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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Yet with the bush tax cuts they all get a rebate. go figger.
    I never really got that either. How can you get tax cuts on taxes you don't pay?

    Yeah but you a "young money millionaire"..... Are you the normal working class family living paycheck to paycheck in the bronx?
    NOBODY living in any affordable and even the low violence part of the Bronx is living on paycheck to paycheck. And if they are they're probably not paying taxes as it is. I doubt you're talking about single black mothers in the projects. So who are you talking about exactly? Never mind that. Like I said. If 3% in extra taxes is going to destroy their way of living in the way you seem to think it is then they have bigger problems then taxes. They are living way beyond their means to start of from.

    Doubtful, you seem much more suburban/rural to me.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I never really got that either. How can you get tax cuts on taxes you don't pay?

    You don't my friend. That is called "welfare"....

    But thats what they call it.


    NOBODY living in any affordable and even the low violence part of the Bronx is living on paycheck to paycheck. And if they are they're probably not paying taxes as it is. I doubt you're talking about single black mothers in the projects. So who are you talking about exactly? Never mind that. Like I said. If 3% in extra taxes is going to destroy their way of living in the way you seem to think it is then they have bigger problems then taxes. They are living way beyond their means to start of from.

    I lived paycheck to paycheck for a while..... I ain't black and I aint a mother.... Damn me bucking the statistics......


    What percentage of a fireman's pay is adequate for you to be taxed?







    I'm not ashamed of having worked to the point where I don't need to live in a city to make a living.



    Awesome. But let's tax the hell out of those who do live in a city......


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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Please to be showing me a real world example of your theory.......




    I still do not see it.
    I'm really not sure what you're asking me here. A real-world example that people want higher wages? A news article saying that people are drawn to a certain industry due to higher wages? What exactly are you looking for?

    Like I said, this is pretty basic economics. Open any Econ 101 book and you'll see some variant of the idea that higher wages mean more people willing to supply their labor for a particular job. Just like any other commodity.

    Here is an introduction to the idea:
    SparkNotes: Labor Supply: Labor Supply
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You don't my friend. That is called "welfare"....

    But thats what they call it.
    Are we even talking about the same thing anymore?

    I lived paycheck to paycheck for a while..... I ain't black and I aint a mother.... Damn me bucking the statistics.....
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    Doesn't answer anything I said but ummm sure. Hey if 3% would have screwed you over you either weren't making enough or were living beyond your means.

    What percentage of a fireman's pay is adequate for you to be taxed?
    What percentage of a fireman's pay is taxed out as it is? The same as everybody elses? If yes. Why should they get life cheaper then the rest of us? What are they? Stereotypical Jews or something?

    Awesome. But let's tax the hell out of those who do live in a city......
    Not my fault or for that matter that of anybody who doesn't live in a major city if there are extra costs associated with living in a city. How about a little 'personal responsibility' for your actions? I keep hearing Libertarians and Conservatives using it. I don't have a sky scrapper outside my window but I wouldn't trade what I currently have for living in a city. Why? 1. The costs wouldn't justify it. 2. The costs wouldn't justify it. 3. The costs wouldn't justify it.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm really not sure what you're asking me here. A real-world example that people want higher wages? A news article saying that people are drawn to a certain industry due to higher wages? What exactly are you looking for?

    Nope real world example of any metropolitian area paying cops, firemen, teachers what they are worth... Pay attention...


    Like I said, this is pretty basic economics. Open any Econ 101 book and you'll see some variant of the idea that higher wages mean more people willing to supply their labor for a particular job. Just like any other commodity.

    How do you expect the .gov to pay these higher wages? face it when the government is involved we all lose.


    Here is an introduction to the idea:
    SparkNotes: Labor Supply: Labor Supply
    yeah.... you fail and its not even funny anymore.


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