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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Thats why there should be flat taxes. Everyone should pay the same %, while the total tax burden should go up to afford your expenditures, while at the same time expenditures would have to be decreased to avoid average flat tax of monstrous levels.
    That's politically impossible, financially impractical, and a recipe for poverty if it ever happened.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That's politically impossible, financially impractical, and a recipe for poverty if it ever happened.
    Isnt America supposed to be about giving everyone the same chance on EQUAL terms?

    This is not a debate I want to go into on this thread. We had an interesting discussion about this(flat tax) in another thread in the economy section.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Isnt America supposed to be about giving everyone the same chance on EQUAL terms?

    Equal opportunity, not equal outcome.


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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Isnt America supposed to be about giving everyone the same chance on EQUAL terms?
    Structuring a tax code around "equality" is ridiculous and impossible. If that were the case, everyone would pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. That's just flat-out stupid, because some people don't even make that much in a year or they'd just barely come out ahead. This would cause poverty, which would cause more crime, disease, and ignorance.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Structuring a tax code around "equality" is ridiculous and impossible. If that were the case, everyone would pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. That's just flat-out stupid, because some people don't even make that much in a year or they'd just barely come out ahead. This would cause poverty, which would cause more crime, disease, and ignorance.
    No, no, no... %%%%%%%.. Not same dollar. Same cent per dollar.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    No, no, no... %%%%%%%.. Not same dollar. Same cent per dollar.
    If you're going to make some absurd philosophical case that the tax code should be based on "equality" rather than economic prudence, then at least be consistent.

    You aren't REALLY in favor of equality, because the wealthy still pay more taxes than the poor even under a flat tax. The only truly equal system would be where everyone pays the same dollar amount.

    So since we've dispensed with the illusion that you care about equality, let's move on to the next question: What tax system makes the most economic sense? A progressive tax makes much more sense than a flat tax, as it reduces poverty without the need for big government programs and overregulation of the market.
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you're going to make some absurd philosophical case that the tax code should be based on "equality" rather than economic prudence, then at least be consistent.

    You aren't REALLY in favor of equality, because the wealthy still pay more taxes than the poor even under a flat tax. The only truly equal system would be where everyone pays the same dollar amount.

    So since we've dispensed with the illusion that you care about equality, let's move on to the next question: What tax system makes the most economic sense? A progressive tax makes much more sense than a flat tax, as it reduces poverty without the need for big government programs and overregulation of the market.

    Why should you pay more per cent earned if you make $1 million than when you make $250.000.. Even almost 10-20% more.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...lat-tax-8.html (Flat tax)
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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The tax cuts were never permanent to begin with. That's why they have an expiration built in. Get it now? Good.
    In all honesty, throughout the history of this country, the right has made decisions that have negatively impacted the common citizen so that business men could get wealthy.

    The left has often been forced to raise taxes to pay for the damage done to the economy and John Q. Public by the right.

    Now it's time for business to get back what they gave over the last eight years... and guess what? Big business is whining about it.

    The were happy to rape the common citizen but they are not so willing to be bent over the table.

    Sounds like big business is going from bull to bitch and they aren't happy about it.

    Too bad.

    Somebody call them a Waaaaaaahhhmbulance.


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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Why should you pay more per cent earned if you make $1 million than when you make $250.000.. Even almost 10-20% more.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...lat-tax-8.html (Flat tax)
    A flat tax favors the wealthy.

    The wealthy must be taxed according to income or their will be no equality.

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    Re: Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

    You know what Vader? You may in fact be the biggest enigma on this site. Sometimes you sound like an out of control conservative, and sometimes like a bleeding heart liberal. You're confusing...but I suspect you like it that way.
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