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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    No, I don't. I don't think it would be good or natural for the child to grow up with two dads or two moms since its not the children choice.
    In bold. Opinion. Please present any evidence that supports your position.


    I know its not the children's choice to grow up with a mom and dad, but thats just the way it has always been.
    Appeal to tradition logical fallacy. You want a list of things that "had always been" that we longer see as acceptable, because they have been proven to not be?

    Its not fair for society out of accommodating everyone that we should decide on behalf of unborn children that they can grow up with gay parents. So no. But I would rather see a child with "normal" gay parents, than drug addicted straight people for example, I think they would be better parents, but I don't support it.
    But then again, its not realistic at all to ban all bad parents from having children, but we do not need to add two men, or two women to the parenting list and make it worse.
    Again, you have shown nothing to support your opinion. Let's see some facts or evidence.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Straight couples are also bad at raising children, just look at our societies.. But they have been raising them for tens of thousands of years, and at least we manage decent in this day and age, we are still alive.. How about gays? How long have they been raising children, and where is your deep proof that they are raising them well? And I am talking about centuries of proof, since one life is pretty much a century, and anything less than a several generations of gay people raising children is worthless..

    Think of the bad effects that may be visible 1000 years from now if this stupid generation of people will allow gay people to raise children. (what did those morons back then think about when allowing gays to raise children).. We shouldn't make such decisions. Why should gays be allowed to raise children? They cant make children, so they cannot raise children. Unless its lesbians, because one of them could sleep with a man and have a child. Two men cant have a child and shouldn't raise children.

    On average I am certain that its better for the child, in the short term and the long term(his/her life) to be raised by straight people. I am also sure its better for(him/her) to be raised by two parents mom/dad, than just one, or some partial custody stuff.
    Nothing but appeal to tradition and lack of substantiation. You are entitled to your opinion, of course...no matter how much it has been disproven.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    In bold. Opinion. Please present any evidence that supports your position.




    Appeal to tradition logical fallacy. You want a list of things that "had always been" that we longer see as acceptable, because they have been proven to not be?



    Again, you have shown nothing to support your opinion. Let's see some facts or evidence.


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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    Its not always about evidence you know, sometimes good old common sense can get you very far.
    And common sense AND history has shown that not only has homosexuality been around for thousands of years but that they also raised kids..both while hiding the fact that they were gay and while they were openly gay.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    I certainly think strict demands should be made towards straight couples who want to adopt as well? Excluding for example drug addicts.
    What about intolerant bigots? Should they be allowed to adopt?
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    Its not always about evidence you know, sometimes good old common sense can get you very far.
    Please show me one instance where "good old common sense" is either not support by evidence, or where it supersedes evidence. Oh, wait, that would be asking for evidence, something you have refused to do. Sorry. Please continue with your non-factual opinions.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Please show me one instance where "good old common sense" is either not support by evidence, or where it supersedes evidence. Oh, wait, that would be asking for evidence, something you have refused to do. Sorry. Please continue with your non-factual opinions.
    Its not non-factual that its best for children to grow up with a mom/dad combination parents, rather than single parents or mom/mom, or dad/dad. Rather than wanting to read an article or see some stats after that statement, you should sit down in a good chair and just think, try to get that good old common sense working, and thinking about it for a few minutes or a few hours, until you understand what I am talking about.. And then come back.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its not non-factual that its best for children to grow up with a mom/dad combination parents, rather than single parents or mom/mom, or dad/dad. Rather than wanting to read an article or see some stats after that statement, you should sit down in a good chair and just think, try to get that good old common sense working, and thinking about it for a few minutes or a few hours, until you understand what I am talking about.. And then come back.
    And yet, you'd still be wrong about this. Amazing how a lack of curiosity to test one's belief will do that. Common sense dictated that the earth was flat. We see what happened with that theory. Try doing a little reading, and then come back.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

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    And yet, you'd still be wrong about this. Amazing how a lack of curiosity to test one's belief will do that. Common sense dictated that the earth was flat. We see what happened with that theory. Try doing a little reading, and then come back.
    So you think on average...
    -Its better for children to grow up with one parent than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two moms than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two men as dads, rather than mom/dad combination

    Thats what you are saying..

    Straight couples have raised children for tens of thousands of years... Think man, common sense.. I have seen no proof that gay parents make BETTER parents than straight ones, therefor there is no need to allow them.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    So you think on average...
    -Its better for children to grow up with one parent than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two moms than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two men as dads, rather than mom/dad combination

    Thats what you are saying..
    No, that's NOT what I'm saying. You are straw manning. Please show anywhere that I made any claims as to any of the above. I never used the word "better".

    Straight couples have raised children for tens of thousands of years... Think man, common sense.. I have seen no proof that gay parents make BETTER parents than straight ones, therefor there is no need to allow them.
    Again. I NEVER USED THE WORD "BETTER". Please only attribute arguments to me that I make. Thank you.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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