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On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

On average would straight couples make better parents then a gay couple?

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Maximus Zeebra said:
Well, you prove to me that gay couples, two men for example have raised children, and that they have done it better than straights.. If they havent its highly unlikely they are even equal good parents, because a man & a man is not the same as a woman & a man, and therefor unlikely equal at raising a child either..
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I've already destroyed the logic of this argument. Point negated.

How about a childs right to grow up with a mother? Only the most unfortunate children do not, if their mother die or something. Its the most natural human relationship.. You want to take that away?
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Show me some law that says a child has the right to grow up with a mother.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thats why people like you care more about statistics than common sense.. CC says he do not even know what common sense is..
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I know what common sense is. I don't think you know what common sense is which is why I keep asking you to define it.

"Statistics and proof" all the time over common sense.. Thats just ridiculous. How about a childs right to have a mother? How about that? Please prove that that is bad, for a child to have a mother, and its better to have 2 dads, prove that with statistics and a bunch of silly internet article..

You people drive me crazy.
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Please show anywhere that I, or anyone else, said that it is bad for a child to have a mother or it's better to have 2 dads. Your major flaw, here, is that you keep accusing folks of arguments they are not making. Seems like the only way you can win this thing is by arguing points no one is stating.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Of course two men would make worse parents, the child would grow up without a mother. I have seen no proof that gays make BETTER parents, and since gays and straights are not the same, the likelyhood that they are equal parents are very low..
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This position has already been proven both incorrect and illogical. Point negated.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Its not a matter of evidence, this is a matter of common sense.

I have seen no proof the the contrary btw.. I have told you a number of factors which should get you thinking about this..

Mom/dad is obviously the most healthy parenting relationship(on average), its natural, you get both influence from a mother figure and a father figure, both non-confusing feminine and non-confusing masculine input. Its better than single parent houses, its better than gay parents, its right out the best solution, the natural solution..

Or would you also contest that single parent situations on average is worse for children than mom/dad parenting situation?
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Notice. As your argument falls apart more and more, you keep changing the goal posts. Now you are moving to single parent households.

Maximus, since all you have offered is no evidence, logical fallacies, refusals to denote definitions, inaccurate accusations, and illogical analogies, it would be best if you just repeated after me:

"I, Maximus, do not believe that gays should adopt on purely moral/values based grounds." Although illogical, this would be acceptable.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
The best parenting situation on average for children is mom/dad.. No doubt about it. Any proof or statistics you that may show otherwise is either a shallow scratch the surface thing, or tainted by the bias and the wish that gay parents are equal. The amount of date on mom/dad vs single parents are huge in favor of mom/dad, and there is almost no credible data available on dad/dad, mom/mom parenting in comparison to either. So to prove that they are equal is just ridiculous.
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The data on gay parenting is entirely credible. You just don't like it because it proves you wrong. But please, show us how it is not credible.
 
Logic 2,130. Maximus zippity-do-dah.

Always bugs me when someone can't admit they are wrong or just basing their opinion of values, even when it is proven to them. Oh well.

Who's next?
 
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Well scientifically a child needs the best of both worlds to grow and develop properly (a male and female influence). So im going to say yes straight couples would be more beneficial for a child. But thats definetly not to say they would be any less of a good parent then a gay couple. And the poll is asking which one would be better at parenting. If you placed both, i would have voted.
 
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kaya'08 said:
Well scientifically a child needs the best of both worlds to grow and develop properly (a male and female influence). So im going to say yes straight couples would be more beneficial for a child. But thats definetly not to say they would be any less of a good parent then a gay couple. And the poll is asking which one would be better at parenting. If you placed both, i would have voted.
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I'm confused, you say that straight couples would be more beneficial, but that both types of couples would be equally good parents. Could you clarify please?
 
I think, due to facts i have heard, that straight couples would be more beneficial in terms of the mental development of the child. But the poll asks:

On average would straight couples make better parents then a gay couple?
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"Better" parents to me are parents that care and love there children and protect them and keep them in appropriate enviournments and just doing what parent figures do, educating, helping, supporting there children etc, whether it has a negative or a positive impact on the childs mental development or not.
Here it asks if straights would be "better" parents. No mention of better for the "development of children". I dont believe they would be any less able to be parents. Whats to say gays wont love there child or care for them like straight couples?
 
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kaya'08 said:
I think, due to facts i have heard, that straight couples would be more beneficial in terms of the mental development of the child. But the poll asks:



"Better" parents to me are parents that care and love there children and protect them and keep them in appropriate enviournments and just doing what parent figures do, educating, helping, supporting there children etc, whether it has a negative or a positive impact on the childs mental development or not.
Here it asks if straights would be "better" parents. No mention of better for the "development of children". I dont believe they would be any less able to be parents. Whats to say gays wont love there child or care for them like straight couples?
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You keep contradicting yourself. First you say that kids raised by heterosexual parents is more beneficial but then you say that the parenting is equal between heteroseuxals and homosexuals....
 
Kal'Stang said:
You keep contradicting yourself. First you say that kids raised by heterosexual parents is more beneficial but then you say that the parenting is equal between heteroseuxals and homosexuals....
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Bloody hell forget it.
Read my post carefully. :doh

My idea of what a good parent is (or who makes a better parent), is a parent who cares and supports a child. Can homosexual couples not care and support there child? Of course they can, so they can be equally good parents. However, on the contrary, maybe not so much for the mental development of the child. The poll asks which one would make better parents. It doesnt ask which one would have a better mental impact. As for as the mental development side is concerned perhaps straight couples. But its not asking that its just asking what parents (gay or straight) would make better ones. And remember:

My idea of what a good parent is (or who makes a better parent), is a parent who cares and supports a child.
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Get it now?
 
kaya'08 said:
My idea of what a good parent is (or who makes a better parent), is a parent who cares and supports a child. Can homosexual couples not care and support there child? Of course they can, so they can be equally good parents. However, on the contrary, maybe not so much for the mental development of the child. The poll asks which one would make better parents. It doesnt ask which one would have a better mental impact. As for as the mental development side is concerned perhaps straight couples. But its not asking that its just asking what parents (gay or straight) would make better ones. And remember:
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I believe CaptainCourtesy's post a few pages back to the parenting study of homosexuals/heterosexuals shows that thee is no difference in mental development of the child when parented by homosexual parents vs heterosexual parents.

If you have a source that states otherwise please share.
 
kaya'08 said:
Bloody hell forget it.
Read my post carefully. :doh

My idea of what a good parent is (or who makes a better parent), is a parent who cares and supports a child. Can homosexual couples not care and support there child? Of course they can, so they can be equally good parents. However, on the contrary, maybe not so much for the mental development of the child. The poll asks which one would make better parents. It doesnt ask which one would have a better mental impact. As for as the mental development side is concerned perhaps straight couples. But its not asking that its just asking what parents (gay or straight) would make better ones. And remember:



Get it now?
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Gibberish said:
I believe CaptainCourtesy's post a few pages back to the parenting study of homosexuals/heterosexuals shows that thee is no difference in mental development of the child when parented by homosexual parents vs heterosexual parents.

If you have a source that states otherwise please share.
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What he said.
 
Gibberish said:
I believe CaptainCourtesy's post a few pages back to the parenting study of homosexuals/heterosexuals shows that thee is no difference in mental development of the child when parented by homosexual parents vs heterosexual parents.

If you have a source that states otherwise please share.
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What do you want an URL?
I watched a documentary on it, get Sky Plus.

Ill try and find it on youtube tonight.
 
kaya'08 said:
What do you want an URL?
I watched a documentary on it, get Sky Plus.

Ill try and find it on youtube tonight.
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URL, Documentary title, book, whatever you can provide. It's all better then "I think it and therefore it is true".
 
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