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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, that's NOT what I'm saying. You are straw manning. Please show anywhere that I made any claims as to any of the above. I never used the word "better".



    Again. I NEVER USED THE WORD "BETTER". Please only attribute arguments to me that I make. Thank you.
    Just re-read the last few pages yourself.

    I never said any of the things you claim I said either.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Just re-read the last few pages yourself.

    I never said any of the things you claim I said either.
    Maximus, you have repeatedly said that two-parent, opposite sex couples are better at rearing children than two-parent single sex couples. Are you now going to deny this?
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Maximus, you have repeatedly said that two-parent, opposite sex couples are better at rearing children than two-parent single sex couples. Are you now going to deny this?
    I did say that. But if gay parents aren't better than straight ones, why should they then be allowed to adopt? No need then.. If they aren't better they can at best be equal, and all common sense says two men raising a child is not the same as one woman and one man..

    Children needs both masculin and feminine impulses, neither which gays can provide, except a confusing mix of both. Thats NOT what a child needs, therefor I stick with the common sense option that gay parents 99% sure make worse parents on average that straights.

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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Maximus, you have repeatedly said that two-parent, opposite sex couples are better at rearing children than two-parent single sex couples. Are you now going to deny this?
    Also, most children get far more impulses from their mother the first 10 years than their father, and then it kind of switches around(for boys). So in my opinion two women would also make better parents than two men.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    So you think on average...
    -Its better for children to grow up with one parent than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two moms than mom/dad combination
    -Its better for children to grow up with two men as dads, rather than mom/dad combination

    Thats what you are saying..

    Straight couples have raised children for tens of thousands of years... Think man, common sense.. I have seen no proof that gay parents make BETTER parents than straight ones, therefor there is no need to allow them.
    CC is right. No one is saying that a mom/mom or a dad/dad combo is better than a mom/dad combo. They're just saying that vis a vis they are they same.

    And as I showed earlier homosexuals have been raising kids for thousands of years also.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I did say that. But if gay parents aren't better than straight ones, why should they then be allowed to adopt? No need then.. If they aren't better they can at best be equal, and all common sense says two men raising a child is not the same as one woman and one man..

    Children needs both masculin and feminine impulses, neither which gays can provide, except a confusing mix of both. Thats NOT what a child needs, therefor I stick with the common sense option that gay parents 99% sure make worse parents on average that straights.

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    Do you believe that a woman can do everything a man can? Example: fish, hunt, fight. All those "man" things that men always tout around about?
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I did say that. But if gay parents aren't better than straight ones, why should they then be allowed to adopt? No need then.. If they aren't better they can at best be equal, and all common sense says two men raising a child is not the same as one woman and one man..
    Of course it's not the same. Course no two couples raise their children the same..no matter their gender, sexuality. But just because they are not the same does not mean that they cannot do the job.

    For example a 3ft person can never sit in a normal size persons chair like a normal sized person. Because they are not the same. But they can still sit in the chair.

    Now for the part in bold. Why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt if they are the same? Seems to me that you are still argueing for the "traditional" mom/dad thing here and letting it get in the way.

    But hey I'll still answer the question. Everyone knows that there are still kids in the system. Not everyone that wants to adopt is eligible. Which means that the amount of people that can adopt cannot keep up with the amount of kids in the system. Allowing homosexuals to adopt would reduce the number of kids in the system by increaseing the number of people that are eligible to adopt. And it's pretty common knowledge that a kid in the system has more of a chance of 'going bad' than a kid raised in a family setting. It's really a win win situation. Less kids in the system, homosexuals giving equal rights to adopt children which makes them happy, kids raised in a family setting have a better chance of becoming productive members of society, and though this may seem a bit callous it means that there is less taxpayer money spent on kids because they are not in the system anymore. Sorry but there was no other way to say that last part. Truth is truth.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    CC is right. No one is saying that a mom/mom or a dad/dad combo is better than a mom/dad combo. They're just saying that vis a vis they are they same.

    And as I showed earlier homosexuals have been raising kids for thousands of years also.
    Hello!!! Its OBVIOUSLY NOT the same.. Geez. How about masculine AND feminine impulses?

    You didn't show that.. You talked about gay people in a straight relationship.. Anyways, there is no long term research about those people who grew up with two dads. For all you know those spawns could be the ones who ended up serial killers and rapists and so on.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you believe that a woman can do everything a man can? Example: fish, hunt, fight. All those "man" things that men always tout around about?
    Women and men are not the same.
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    Re: On average would straight couples make better parents then gay couples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Of course it's not the same. Course no two couples raise their children the same..no matter their gender, sexuality. But just because they are not the same does not mean that they cannot do the job.
    For example a 3ft person can never sit in a normal size persons chair like a normal sized person. Because they are not the same. But they can still sit in the chair.
    Now for the part in bold. Why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt if they are the same? Seems to me that you are still argueing for the "traditional" mom/dad thing here and letting it get in the way.
    They aren't the same. One man and one woman is not the same as two men or two women.
    And why in the heck should they be able to adopt if they aren't BETTER parents? Why should we decide out of pity that two men should be allowed to adopt and raise a child, thats just INSANE. The need isn't there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But hey I'll still answer the question. Everyone knows that there are still kids in the system. Not everyone that wants to adopt is eligible. Which means that the amount of people that can adopt cannot keep up with the amount of kids in the system. Allowing homosexuals to adopt would reduce the number of kids in the system by increaseing the number of people that are eligible to adopt. And it's pretty common knowledge that a kid in the system has more of a chance of 'going bad' than a kid raised in a family setting. It's really a win win situation. Less kids in the system, homosexuals giving equal rights to adopt children which makes them happy, kids raised in a family setting have a better chance of becoming productive members of society, and though this may seem a bit callous it means that there is less taxpayer money spent on kids because they are not in the system anymore. Sorry but there was no other way to say that last part. Truth is truth.
    Perhaps thats just a sing that the whole adoption system is bad. Perhaps they should be more liberal with who they let adopt, I know plenty of cases where perfectly normal straight couples were not allowed to adopt because of some technicalities. Thats NO reason to allow two men or two women to adopt.
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