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Thread: Obama Compromises National Defense

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    Obama Compromises National Defense

    The Russians are once again celebrating Democrat stupidity...

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    So the question is, when Obama is finished subverting U.S. interests abroad and making us utterly beholden to the whims of foreign powers, will Democrats once again get away with falsely blaming Republicans for their own refusal to learn from history, as they did with 9/11, Iran, North Korea, etc?
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Obama isn't the President of Eastern Europe.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Good to see Obama getting something right. Pissing off Russia by deploying a missile shield that is unlikely to work against threats that currently do not exist is a bad strategy. Iran is not going to be able to attack us with missiles for a very long while, and Israel will not allow them to develop nukes. If you want a missile shield, it should actually work, and be deployed on American soil in secret.

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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Obama isn't the President of Eastern Europe.
    Congratulations.

    Good to see your trademark of making completely irrelevant observations remains intact.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    It was a bloody stupid idea to start with. It shows how much some rightwing groups have taken up a liberal view on IR. Any neo-realist could have told them pissing off the Russians on their own doorstep in this way and by increasing the membership of NATO is a silly idea in terms of stability and ultimate security.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Good to see Obama getting something right.


    Newsflash: Taking Russia's word for it that they will pressure the lunatic Kamikaze regime Democrats installed in Iran...which was armed by...Russia...the country that always sides with Iran and its own economic interests over international security...to give up it's nuclear program...is pretty much the exact opposite of "getting something right."

    Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Pissing off Russia by deploying a missile shield that is unlikely to work against threats that currently do not exist is a bad strategy. Iran is not going to be able to attack us with missiles for a very long while, and Israel will not allow them to develop nukes. If you want a missile shield, it should actually work, and be deployed on American soil in secret.
    -So many falsehoods, so little time. If it were unlikely to work Russia wouldn't have been scrambling like mad to get us to take it down.

    -Iran isn't a threat? Meanwhile, on planet Earth, this laughably stupid claim needs no debate. It's erroneous on its face.

    -No one's claiming that Iran will be able to attack US anytime soon...it's Europe and Israel...the country they want to wipe off the map...that needs the shield. The shield gives us leverage. Obama, just like Clinton and Carter before him, is merely visionlessly subverting our interests so we can end up at the mercy of our enemies once again. Liberals pay zero attention to history, hence their insistence on repeating such catastrophic blunders.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It was a bloody stupid idea to start with. It shows how much some rightwing groups have taken up a liberal view on IR. Any neo-realist could have told them pissing off the Russians on their own doorstep in this way and by increasing the membership of NATO is a silly idea in terms of stability and ultimate security.
    Yeah, how absurd of us to check the power of the racist lunatic regime in Iran and the increasingly abusive dictatorship in Russia at the same time. As much as the ridiculous children of the left may not want to come to terms with it, the reality is that resisting aggression by monsters generally angers them and is not a valid excuse for groveling and surrender.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    -No one's claiming that Iran will be able to attack US anytime soon...it's Europe and Israel...the country they want to wipe off the map...that needs the shield.
    Then why not just let Europe and Israel to build the shield if they want it, instead of us building it? It's not like these are destitute third-world nations who can't afford it (inasmuch as any nation can afford this)...
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Yeah, how absurd of us to check the power of the racist lunatic regime in Iran and the increasingly abusive dictatorship in Russia at the same time.
    Indeed. If you are interested in stability, global security and domestic liberty it is an absurd idea to go for these liberal interventionist strategies.

    As much as the ridiculous children of the left may not want to come to terms with it, the reality is that resisting aggression by monsters generally angers them and is not a valid excuse for groveling and surrender.
    You arguments are liberal to the core. You are arguing for humanitarian interventionism to defeat regimes on ideological grounds when for the cause of stability or national interest is little served by it.
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    Re: Obama Compromises National Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Then why not just let Europe and Israel to build the shield if they want it, instead of us building it? It's not like these are destitute third-world nations who can't afford it (inasmuch as any nation can afford this)...
    Because foreign policy is a giant chess match. It gives us tremendous leverage over both the Iranians and the increasingly abusive Russians to be able to neutralize their missile threat.
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