View Poll Results: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

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  • Yes, I think he is doing exactly what he said he would when he got into office.

    10 22.73%
  • Sort of. I think it may take him longer to do some things than I previously thought.

    13 29.55%
  • No, he hasn't done anything useful in office and I don't think he ever will.

    19 43.18%
  • Who's Obama?

    2 4.55%
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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    He just throws it out there that "he lied his way into the white house" with absolutely no justification, and completely ignoring the major, serious lies from the Bush administration that these same people pooh-pooed only a few weeks ago. Lies like "we started the war on faulty intelligence", and "the US does not torture". It just amazes me that you can defend things like that, yet claim that this president, in office 3 weeks, and who has accomplished an incredible amount in that short time, is a failure and "lied his way into office".
    Keep in mind that Bush received off the charts popularity votes for his actions during the 9/11 crisis. He also got the A-OK from 100% of the Senate to move in on Iraq. The Senate was controlled by the Democrats at that time.

    So, please, credit where credit is due.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by DGomez View Post
    Keep in mind that Bush received off the charts popularity votes for his actions during the 9/11 crisis. He also got the A-OK from 100% of the Senate to move in on Iraq. The Senate was controlled by the Democrats at that time.

    So, please, credit where credit is due.
    You rightly point out that Democrats supported the Bush administration even though the 2000 election was stolen. Yet Republicans reject the Obama administration from the very beginning.
    Also, please remember that Democrats did not vote to go to war with Iraq, they voted to give the President all the power he needed to face down Saddam Hussein, assuming he would start with diplomacy.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    even though the 2000 election was stolen.
    Highly unlikely. History has shown that the American public always reelects the same president during a time of crisis. Better an evil known than unknown.

    With a flaky platform presented by the Democrats, Al Gore had no chance.


    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Also, please remember that Democrats did not vote to go to war with Iraq, they voted to give the President all the power he needed to face down Saddam Hussein, assuming he would start with diplomacy.
    Nice try.

    Please read up on your current events/history. Bush was given all the power he needed to eliminate the military threat of Al Qaeda, an extremist terrorist group. These actions inevitably led to Saddam Hussein and dealings with Iraq. But the Senate voted approval knowing full well it would involve an offensive strike; thus, the controversy over the Iraqi war: is it right to invade a country to take care of a group separate of their government?

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by DGomez View Post
    Highly unlikely. History has shown that the American public always reelects the same president during a time of crisis. Better an evil known than unknown.
    I'm not even sure what this means. You are aware that Bill Clinton was president during the 2000 election?




    Nice try.

    Please read up on your current events/history. Bush was given all the power he needed to eliminate the military threat of Al Qaeda, an extremist terrorist group. These actions inevitably led to Saddam Hussein and dealings with Iraq. But the Senate voted approval knowing full well it would involve an offensive strike; thus, the controversy over the Iraqi war: is it right to invade a country to take care of a group separate of their government?
    I am quite familiar with the particulars of the Iraq Resolution, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with it. Democrats supported this resolution because it gave the president the authority to use the threat of force. History and common sense indicated that force would never actually be used, which is why the resolution had so much support. Do you really believe Democrats wanted George Bush to start a war?

    The resolution "supported" and "encouraged" diplomatic efforts by President George W. Bush to "strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq" and "obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."

    The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Obama reminds me of a little kid at Disneyland playing pretend.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I'm not even sure what this means. You are aware that Bill Clinton was president during the 2000 election?
    Oops lol. Yes, I was aware. That's what I get for posting at 2am. I somehow processed it as 2004 with the 2000 candidates. My bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Do you really believe Democrats wanted George Bush to start a war?
    Yes. We were all pretty mad at that point and war is good business.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The resolution "supported" and "encouraged" diplomatic efforts by President George W. Bush to "strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq" and "obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."


    Which is the red tape version of saying "invade." How could they possibly negotiate with Iraq about an extremist group they have no control over? That's like Iraq negotiating with us about the KKK. It would never happen. They were just legitimizing military action.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
    Again, Iraq did NOT attack us. Al Qaeda did. They used the attack as an excuse to invade Iraq and everyone fully supported it.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    Who's Obama?

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    He hasn't lived up to his policy of transparency, so in my book, has failed on almost all levels.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    I don't put much faith in any politicians promises so I chose the sort of option. I still feel that after the smoke clears at the end of his term that he will have accomplished most of agenda that I felt was important when I voted for him.

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    Re: Do you think Obama is living up to his promises?

    What amazes me about this president is...Even with all of his eloquence and butterfly twaddle, he can sit down with the common man and have a beer. I think the Beer Summit will go down in history as a profound and substantial contribution of the Obama administration much the same way as the Bay of Pigs for Kennedy and the Berlin Wall for Reagan...IF it doesn't completely dwarf them both. Only history will tell...It does show a make it happen spirit that offers extreme potential to an already robust and forthright administration...

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