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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Hmm..

    Those who chose to distribute their copyrighted works for free would like to talk to you.

    Stop generalizing.
    OMG, where the hell did you come from?
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    It's like arguing with those people who insist they're not legally obligated to pay taxes.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Their copyrighted works? Of who? No-name unsigned artists on MySpace?.

    And you call me clueless?

    Ignorant of the week award for sure.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    OMG, where the hell did you come from?
    Yeah, I wondered the same thing.

    It was as random as his argument for legalizing the stealing of intellectual property.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    But they do. And they do for the simple reason that profiting from a work is a great incentive to create that work.
    Yes, and the profit from innovating in a free society is having the first-to-market advantage. Stifling adoption of this advancement via monopoly is criminal.

    No. You said there's no such thing as intellectual property. You're wrong. The Constitution recognizes it, along with all sorts of other rights.
    "Intellectual property" is a code-word for veto power over my real property rights.

    As is true with any set of laws, including any other property laws.
    And? What's the point of this forum anyway? Everyone should just bend over and take whatever the government gives them. The state is always right.


    No, appeals to FALSE authority are not. Besides, what's "Western society" but an authority?
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    Yes, and the profit from innovating in a free society is having the first-to-market advantage. Stifling adoption of this advancement via monopoly is criminal.


    "Intellectual property" is a code-word for veto power over my real property rights.


    And? What's the point of this forum anyway? Everyone should just bend over and take whatever the government gives them. The state is always right.



    I appeal to basic economic principles, not to force.
    First, you're talking about intellectual property. That differs from, say orange juice. Metallica's songs are different from Mariah Carey's which differs from Weird Al's. They're not fungible like OJ is. First to market? Like two artists are going to create the exact same song?

    Stop back tomorrow morning when you sober up and re-read this.

    "code word for veto power over my real property rights"? Can you explain this? Wait - you can't. Right, buy a book and look up "monopoly".

    The government has nothing to do with it. I'd ask you to explain that also - in fact, I have a couple times.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    And you call me clueless?

    Ignorant of the week award for sure.
    Ah so you have clue what I'm talking about but still open your silly mouth? Have fun arguing that you're not stealing the work of other people.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    Yes, and the profit from innovating in a free society is having the first-to-market advantage.
    What, so as soon as the first copy is sold, that's it? That's utterly asinine.


    Stifling adoption of this advancement via monopoly is criminal.
    "Criminal" is a matter of law. You know, that thing you said I couldn't "appeal" to?


    "Intellectual property" is a code-word for veto power over my real property rights.
    And what "property rights" of yours are "stifled" by not allowing you to copy and distribute the songs on the CD you bought?

    Nothing says you can't sell the CD itself. If your argument is that you bought a physical object, then that's all you bought, and that's all you have the right to sell.


    And? What's the point of this forum anyway? Everyone should just bend over and take whatever the government gives them. The state is always right.
    Are you saying the state is always wrong?


    I appeal to basic economic principles, not to force.
    Any enforcement of property rights of any kind comes from force.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Here's the obvious problem with stealing music:

    Music has been priced exorbitantly highly AND everyone hates the music industry.

    I can't think of a single band that I listen to that I'm not absolutely sure would be cool with me stealing their music.

    Of course the corporate bags of douche, the ruiners of music, the destroyers of integrity and the rapists of talent would undoubtedly bemoan me denying their precious whorepay.

    So what I do is create categories.

    The first category is "**** music that I feel no problem with dling for free", this is crappy pop singles. I'm not going to give the corporate douchebag that's responsible for "single ladies" a cent. I'm embarrassed to admit it I do possesses it but there's now way I'm going to PAY for it.

    The second category is "established bands that would be cool with it anyway." I just can't imagine Henry Rollins being pissed with me for dling the discography of Black Flag, and if he is he's a hypocrite and a poseur.

    Bringing us to the third category "new bands I want to support". I buy their CDs at shows.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    What people do not seem to get is that when you buy music, movies etc. You agree to the contract that usually comes in the form of those 30 second clips that tell you something along the lines of 'Making illegal copies of this DVD, CD etc. is illegal under laws X,Y & Z'.
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