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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    "Intellectual property" is not property at all.
    There is a very large body of law and a section of the Constitution which disagrees with you.


    And if it is merely a license they are offering, they should call it leasing or renting and lower prices accordingly.
    The pittance you pay to buy a CD compared to what it would actually cost to buy the album's contents outright, with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereunto, is plenty discount enough.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    Well Captain, I'm not here to bestow my "intellectual property" upon you. Go help your local publisher and invest in that textbook I mentioned, or at least a dictionary so you could keep up in these discussions.
    First, it's your point. Just saying a word like "monopoly" doesn't expand on your point but honestly, I don't think you really have one.

    I think you're simply trying to argue why you should get a freebie download because it's easy and you're attempting to reason against the reality of the fact that you'd be stealing from the rightful owner of the "rights" to that intellectual property.

    Since you won't elaborate, I can only guess that you're suggesting that the concept of intellectual property includes a theory of monopoly in that there is a virtual "monopoly" to that specific work since only one person holds the rights to it, which is way beyond the subject at hand since that person or entity CONTINUES to hold that right and if it's copied and distributed illegally, then not only is it wrong (stealing) but the entity that owns the rights to that intellectual property is being ripped off.

    You can't argue that issue (well, you can and are - but it's completely baseless).

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    There is a very large body of law and a section of the Constitution which disagrees with you.




    The pittance you pay to buy a CD compared to what it would actually cost to buy the album's contents outright, with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereunto, is plenty discount enough.
    Exactly - and where the "freemarket" system comes in as this gentleman keeps alluding to is that if your music stinks, nobody buys it and the price drops.

    None of this supports the open stealing of intellectual property.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Exactly - and where the "freemarket" system comes in as this gentleman keeps alluding to is that if your music stinks, nobody buys it and the price drops.
    It also comes into play when there are hundreds or thousands of people like you willing to sell their wares at lower prices.

    None of this supports the open stealing of intellectual property.
    But he doesn't WANT to pay for it, so he shouldn't HAVE to pay for it. Or something adolescent like that.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    ..a section of the Constitution which disagrees with you.

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    This I'd like to see.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It also comes into play when there are hundreds or thousands of people like you willing to sell their wares at lower prices.



    But he doesn't WANT to pay for it, so he shouldn't HAVE to pay for it. Or something adolescent like that.
    Hey - I demand top dollar for my wares.



    But I agree, it's all about getting freebies at someone elses expense.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    This I'd like to see.
    Art I Sec 8 Cl 8

    To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    There is a very large body of law and a section of the Constitution which disagrees with you.
    Really, where in the Constitution are your ideas on this stated? One vague clause you base your argument upon?

    Not that it matters. Congress is Constitutionally permitted to implement tariffs and regulate commerce, reflecting the mercantilist myths of the time, but this does not mean that it should. Human understanding of economics and property rights has advanced since then.

    The pittance you pay to buy a CD compared to what it would actually cost to buy the album's contents outright, with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereunto, is plenty discount enough.
    When I purchase a CD everything on that CD becomes my property. If a performer does not wish to make this available to people, (s)he should not sell CDs in the marketplace.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Should it be illegal?

    It already is. Stop stealing ****.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Should it be illegal?

    It already is. Stop stealing ****.

    Hmm..

    Those who chose to distribute their copyrighted works for free would like to talk to you.

    Stop generalizing.
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