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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    Yes, perhaps you should learn what a "free market" and a "monopoly" are so that we can move this discussion forward.


    Is this a joke? The government has everything to do with creating artificial monopolies that harm the consumer to benefit monopoly-holders.


    I'm almost afraid to ask you this, but could you elaborate on both of your points?

    Give me some specifics instead of belching out really bad cliche.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post


    I'm almost afraid to ask you this, but could you elaborate on both of your points?

    Give me some specifics instead of belching out really bad cliche.
    Elaborate on what point? Have you learned what a monopoly is yet?

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    You sold the song to the copier. It was his to sell or do with as he pleased. Thus is the way of the free market.
    If you're saying that anyone who buys a song copy then has an unfettered right to copy and/or distribute it as they please, then you would be wrong, wrong, wrong.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you're saying that anyone who buys a song copy then has an unfettered right to copy and/or distribute it as they please, then you would be wrong, wrong, wrong.
    From an anti-property rights perspective perhaps.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    Elaborate on what point? Have you learned what a monopoly is yet?
    Wow - I have to spoon feed. I'm not surprised though.

    Ok, let me dumb it down. Explain to me your thoughts on what a monopoly and free market system are as they pertain to sales of licensed, artistic material and how the evil government is "creating artificial monopolies" to disrupt the process.

    Don't be shy, let it rip. I can't wait for your response.

    This sounds like a Pinky and the Brain plot......
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    From an anti-property rights perspective perhaps.
    From the perspective of the law, and the principles of property rights. Buying a copy confers a specific license, not ownership.

    This is also true in real property, in which you can place any manner of restrictions on a sale, which, if broken, would revert the ownership back.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Wow - I have to spoon feed. I'm not surprised though.

    Ok, let me dumb it down. Explain to me your thoughts on what a monopoly and free market system are as they pertain to sales of licensed, artistic material and how the evil government is "creating artificial monopolies" to disrupt the process.

    Don't be shy, let it rip. I can't wait for your response.

    This sounds like a Pinky and the Brain plot......
    I'm not here to be your teacher.

    Invest in an economics textbook, look up the word "monopoly," and then return to apologize for spreading misinformation.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    From the perspective of the law, and the principles of property rights. Buying a copy confers a specific license, not ownership.

    This is also true in real property, in which you can place any manner of restrictions on a sale, which, if broken, would revert the ownership back.
    "Intellectual property" is not property at all.

    And if it is merely a license they are offering, they should call it leasing or renting and lower prices accordingly.

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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    I'm not here to be your teacher.

    Invest in an economics textbook, look up the word "monopoly," and then return to apologize for spreading misinformation.
    Hah, pretty much what I expected.

    Drop back, punt.

    Thanks for playing, though.
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    Re: Do you think downloading movies or other content should be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Hah, pretty much what I expected.

    Drop back, punt.

    Thanks for playing, though.
    Well Captain, I'm not here to bestow my "intellectual property" upon you. Go help your local publisher and invest in that textbook I mentioned, or at least a dictionary so you could keep up in these discussions.

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