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Where do the soul goes after death ?

Where do the soul goes after death ?

  • It goes to God > Judgement > Heaven or Hell

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • It don't goes anywhere, It stays on earth

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It goes to the "Nowhere"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It goes to Disneyland

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • I don't believe in soul

    Votes: 11 45.8%

  • Total voters
    24
So despite my "athesist" leanings, I am nonetheless a spiritual person who believes that there may indeed be something out there after we die, something that we are not evolved enough to understand so must create dieties to convince us that we, as humans, are so special to the universe that our essence cannot possibly be lost after death.

Your story reminds me of a friend from school who like many of us at that time was so much wanting to find ourselves (even if not consciously) while still not wanting to fit directly into the normal expectations etc.

He just could not accept the idea of one being of such ability or greatness.

Though this made for some seriously unbelievable discussion on a whole new level I found it sad that his analytical personality would not allow him to be free from what he could see or touch etc and he just could not accept what he could not prove out.

Over time life experiences allowed him to better understand the possibility of the unknown and switched from calling himself an atheist to an agnostic. I have not spoken with him for many years, but hope he was able to find balance, purpose and understanding in his life.

Oh and what caused me to make the connection in the first place was that he could not believe in a supreme being that would not respect or allow his love for his pets in any after life. I do not know if this ever changed for him, but it would be interesting to know.

Anyhow the point is that there is just too much real evidence both documented and in our hearts and souls that life is not a light switch that just gets turned off one day.
 
Nice one Lenny, you are a spiritual person just like me, We are not affected by excessive materialism. I do believe in brain's power, and I do believe that we have a Subtle energy, but I do believe the most that we are going back to God with all my respect for all other theories :2wave:

Ahmed thanks for the kind words. :)

I think we are on the same page as far as belief compares to respect for others ideas or sharing a willingness to attempt to understand the not so easily understood etc.

Many religions strongly believe that after our earth life's time has come to an end and our very being completely changes to what we can not fully comprehend as humans we return to the kingdom of God. This is one of those similarities that I tried to discuss earlier that makes have to ask how could so many different peoples and religions come up with such similar beliefs if there was not something to it.

Also I find your ability to remain with your specific beliefs while still being able to respect and even discuss different theories commendable, and the many people out there of various different beliefs that can not do this openly are what I believe to be part of the cause of so much friction between religions.

Why our human minds over complicate that which it can not fully understand to the point of hate and intolerance or even worse is beyond me, but this fear does seem to be at the root of many problems.

A big thumbs up to you!!
 
Ahmed thanks for the kind words. :)

:3oops: I wouldn't have wrote that if you didn't post your post first ;)

Also I find your ability to remain with your specific beliefs while still being able to respect and even discuss different theories commendable, and the many people out there of various different beliefs that can not do this openly are what I believe to be part of the cause of so much friction between religions.

When I was in the 10th grade, we took the theories of the evolution and creationism .. I still remember what was written in the top of the first page, a verse from the Quraan : ".. And God Created this earth ..." and then the theories were explained down the page .. The teacher explained to us a very important thing then : "Without any doubts, we do believe that God created everthing, but in the same time we must discuss everything related to Sience like creationism theories, evolution theories etc, which will make you more faithful". Since then and Iam open minded to any other theories, like every one here :mrgreen:

Why our human minds over complicate that which it can not fully understand to the point of hate and intolerance or even worse is beyond me, but this fear does seem to be at the root of many problems.

True, but from where do you think this conflict comes from ?
 
Your story reminds me of a friend from school who like many of us at that time was so much wanting to find ourselves (even if not consciously) while still not wanting to fit directly into the normal expectations etc.

He just could not accept the idea of one being of such ability or greatness.

Though this made for some seriously unbelievable discussion on a whole new level I found it sad that his analytical personality would not allow him to be free from what he could see or touch etc and he just could not accept what he could not prove out.

Over time life experiences allowed him to better understand the possibility of the unknown and switched from calling himself an atheist to an agnostic. I have not spoken with him for many years, but hope he was able to find balance, purpose and understanding in his life.

Oh and what caused me to make the connection in the first place was that he could not believe in a supreme being that would not respect or allow his love for his pets in any after life. I do not know if this ever changed for him, but it would be interesting to know.

Anyhow the point is that there is just too much real evidence both documented and in our hearts and souls that life is not a light switch that just gets turned off one day.

The only way I could think of to make everyone happy if they come to see The Filter Man when they die... Is you get exactly what you are when you die. If you want to trick people and start wars and that is what occupies your mind most and is your desire. Then heaven for you will be your self in your little world with many gullible people who trust you.

If you like spend your life wanting most for people to trust. And its always in your head. Then maybe for you heaven will be a place of nothing but trust and that will make you happy.

When you die maybe you make you are allowed to make your own personal universe. And if you want it to be hell. It is. And if you want it to be heaven. It is.

I hope everyone gets everything they want.
 
The only way I could think of to make everyone happy if they come to see The Filter Man when they die... Is you get exactly what you are when you die. If you want to trick people and start wars and that is what occupies your mind most and is your desire. Then heaven for you will be your self in your little world with many gullible people who trust you.

If you like spend your life wanting most for people to trust. And its always in your head. Then maybe for you heaven will be a place of nothing but trust and that will make you happy.

When you die maybe you make you are allowed to make your own personal universe. And if you want it to be hell. It is. And if you want it to be heaven. It is.

I hope everyone gets everything they want.

Will their mundane's aim (before they dies) however good or bad is it, will change anything in the after death ?
 
Well, provide empirical evidence for a soul and we’ll discuss it.
 
peepnklown said:
Well, provide empirical evidence for a soul and we’ll discuss it.

Everything that occurs in our body is a cause of something else, agree?

There is not evidence for what truly drives our bodies and our minds to "live." There is some force behind it all that starts it up and incites reaction in every part of our system. This can be considered a "soul."
 
I don't see why one must prove that the soul exists in order to have a theoretical discussion about it. I don't think anyone here is claiming absolutes...

I am partly very scientifically minded, but another part of me thinks that the idea of a soul is something that could go either way. To me, it's equally plausible that it may exist, or may not.
 
I don't see why one must prove that the soul exists in order to have a theoretical discussion about it. I don't think anyone here is claiming absolutes...

Right on! :cheers:

I am partly very scientifically minded, but another part of me thinks that the idea of a soul is something that could go either way. To me, it's equally plausible that it may exist, or may not.

That's why it's called faith. It's believing in something.
 
:3oops: I wouldn't have wrote that if you didn't post your post first ;)



When I was in the 10th grade, we took the theories of the evolution and creationism .. I still remember what was written in the top of the first page, a verse from the Quraan : ".. And God Created this earth ..." and then the theories were explained down the page .. The teacher explained to us a very important thing then : "Without any doubts, we do believe that God created everthing, but in the same time we must discuss everything related to Sience like creationism theories, evolution theories etc, which will make you more faithful". Since then and Iam open minded to any other theories, like every one here :mrgreen:



True, but from where do you think this conflict comes from ?

Possibly internally from lack of faith, understanding, or just back to fear again. I know there are actual teachings on this, but I am trying to stay away from repeating it etc.

Also I am very curious where you were educated? Some of your explanations of teachings sound very different than others I know.
 
Well, provide empirical evidence for a soul and we’ll discuss it.


Oh no not "empirical evidence" again :doh

I remember when I fist started posting here having an entire discussion turn into a debate on what it was good for if anything at all, and how simple it was to misuse and spin those two words.

Like was said earlier this currently is theoretical at the moment except for those who actually may have their own personal evidence or proof of their beliefs.

Let me ask how would you disprove someone who claims to have seen anothers soul? What equipment, or study using empirical evidence would you use? :roll:
 
I don't see why one must prove that the soul exists in order to have a theoretical discussion about it. I don't think anyone here is claiming absolutes...

I am partly very scientifically minded, but another part of me thinks that the idea of a soul is something that could go either way. To me, it's equally plausible that it may exist, or may not.

I believe there is actually some kind of museum in the mid-west US that specifically makes connections between science and religious beliefs. I do not remember the name or where, but do remember seeing it discussed somewhere in the past.

Sorry my memory is not better as they made some interesting links showing science can prove belief, and was interesting.
 
Possibly internally from lack of faith, understanding, or just back to fear again. I know there are actual teachings on this, but I am trying to stay away from repeating it etc.

Also I am very curious where you were educated? Some of your explanations of teachings sound very different than others I know.

I took my education in a normal school, but they didn't taught us the differnet "soul-existance" theories, but thanks to "Google" and some of my friends I got a good bunch of information :mrgreen:

But I wonders why there is a variety of beliefs about souls in your society :thinking , Is that an education thing ?
 
Why is it that people are so awfully afraid of the eternity to come after they die, while at the same time they don't seem to have minded the eternity that came before one bit?

:confused:
 
Why is it that people are so awfully afraid of the eternity to come after they die, while at the same time they don't seem to have minded the eternity that came before one bit?

:confused:

We do hold some fear which is called "Fear of the unknown" if you heard about it.
 
I took my education in a normal school, but they didn't taught us the differnet "soul-existance" theories, but thanks to "Google" and some of my friends I got a good bunch of information :mrgreen:

But I wonders why there is a variety of beliefs about souls in your society :thinking , Is that an education thing ?

I did not mean to pry, and was only curious what part of the world or country etc.

I do not believe the variety is really as much education related as it is related to the abundant variety of people, cultures, religions, and just the mix of very different peoples in the US.
 
I did not mean to pry, and was only curious what part of the world or country etc.

I do not believe the variety is really as much education related as it is related to the abundant variety of people, cultures, religions, and just the mix of very different peoples in the US.

That is a very nice breakdown. So many different cultures expose us to so many different things (depending upon where you live I guess).
 
I do not think that there is any soul...
We are supposed to try to make a heaven on earth, IMO....This works well in places and for a time...but there are hateful, intolerant people all over, whose only goal is to spoil these attemps...
Our Amish and Mennonite people of Pennsylvania come awfully close to the ideal..Men of other nations, and ours, could learn from them, if they could just change their attitudes and throw off religious shackles..
 
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