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Do You Believe in Creationism?

Do You Belive In Creationsm?


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As earth is currently our only precedent for how evolution happens, I agree that E.T. ain't gonna be the first one we meet out there.

The human lifespan so far is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of lifespan of the universe...

This accounts for why we haven't seen life out there yet and possibly won't for a hundred thousand years
 
The human lifespan so far is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of lifespan of the universe...

This accounts for why we haven't seen life out there yet and possibly won't for a hundred thousand years

There's that, and also the fact that it's a big damn universe. Another species could have easily had the drop on us by over a billion years, turned conquest and savagery into the purest artform and they'd be nowhere close to finding us.

I say we first try to decide the best means by which we can survive us.
 
There's that, and also the fact that it's a big damn universe. Another species could have easily had the drop on us by over a billion years, turned conquest and savagery into the purest artform and they'd be nowhere close to finding us.

I say we first try to decide the best means by which we can survive us.

Possibly one of the only two ways humans can survive themselves, is to have a clear and imminent threat from beings elsewhere in the universe. Possibly the only thing that would make humans around the world forget about their differences and bind together as one entity.

The other way for humans to survive themselves is to have an actual God present himself to quell all doubts and suppress any religious disputes.
 
Possibly one of the only two ways humans can survive themselves, is to have a clear and imminent threat from beings elsewhere in the universe. Possibly the only thing that would make humans around the world forget about their differences and bind together as one entity.

The other way for humans to survive themselves is to have an actual God present himself to quell all doubts and suppress any religious disputes.

Heh, in typical nerd fashion, that actually reminded me of a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode in which an alien with superior technology went to a backwards planet and became their god after reading up on their various holy manuscripts and prophecies. Hilarity ensued.
 
No one believes in evolution so why is it an issue on this thread?
 
Heh, in typical nerd fashion, that actually reminded me of a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode in which an alien with superior technology went to a backwards planet and became their god after reading up on their various holy manuscripts and prophecies. Hilarity ensued.

Yeah I like those space shows because of how they trigger the imagination and explorer in me!
 
We can make an educated assumption with our current technology, but no one knows for sure how old the earth is. I'm right.

Thats ridiculous. We have no idea how old the earth is nor the universe. Any speculation on this issue for a lifeform that have been intelligent for a few thousand years is just ridiculous.
 
No one believes in evolution so why is it an issue on this thread?

Guess it bacame an issue because it is one of the elements that dictates what a person will believe
 
Just the fact that any planets lifeform requires an ecosystem of consumption and survival is actually quite disturbing.

Here on earth virtually every species of life attacks and kills other species of life because it has to to survive. Based on this I believe that chances are that if we meet other lifeforms from other planets they wont be friendly.

There are also other life-forms that form simbiotic relationships.

I do agree that any other intelligent life would evolve as a predator... think about it, the predator has to track, chase, and maneuover to catch his prey, whereas the prey merely has to run far enough from the predator to survive. Having versatile thumbs would be important as to have the dexterirty to fashion tools. It is also more likely that the creature be a social creature and communicate easily.


nally believe that evolution may eventually do away with emotions because all we need are logical decision making to proliferate as a species and emotions will only hinder this.
Kinda like the vulcans?? Trans-humanism would say that in the future people will be bound together with chips in the brain that relay all throughts through a central computer... sounds almost 'borg' to me

Sorry for the star trek analogy, but other than the comical use of forehead plastics to create new alien species, and everyone speaking english, all the aliens from Star Trek really are just different elements of the human psyche thrown into an interplanetary society.


why I believe that if life out there finds us it will almost certainly only look at us and earth as a resource for their proliferation and have no emotion as to where we fit in.

As an alien species trying to take over a plaeet.. I doubt that open war-fare style conquest would be worth it in an instance where the populations are beyond a certain technological point.... on the other hand, if they were to encounter a primitive civilisation with the high tech to travel to the planet would be fairly simple to show them that you are a God and should be worshipped as such...

The human lifespan so far is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of lifespan of the universe...

This accounts for why we haven't seen life out there yet and possibly won't for a hundred thousand years

I'm not going to vouch for the validity, but I did see an article talking about how there was observed 'explosions' in space at roughly 180000light years away that was NOT a super-nova... the implication was that it was witnessed evidence of a war in space... Like I said, I don't know if this is legit, but I wouldn't place it in the realm of the impossible.

There's that, and also the fact that it's a big damn universe. Another species could have easily had the drop on us by over a billion years, turned conquest and savagery into the purest artform and they'd be nowhere close to finding us.

Also, if the speed of light is a true barrier (which in all probablility is just a limit on current technology) then there is the issue of how long it takes to actually travel between planets in space... I mean again with Star Trek, Warp 1 is Light speed, Warp 2 is like 3x light speed, warp 3 is like 9x light speed, and so on... and still it is implied days and weeks travel between planets.

e first try to decide the best means by which we can survive us.

That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.

Possibly one of the only two ways humans can survive themselves, is to have a clear and imminent threat from beings elsewhere in the universe. Possibly the only thing that would make humans around the world forget about their differences and bind together as one entity.

Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.

The other way for humans to survive themselves is to have an actual God present himself to quell all doubts and suppress any religious disputes.

How would we recognize 'God'?? Since the Bible's prohibition of 'graven images of God' we have no reference for what a 'God' might look like.
 
So you do not believe in evolution?
Its entirely possible that ID happened in way that supports the theory of evolution.

The bible says the Earth is only 9000 years old
No. People say the bible says the earth is ony 9000 years old.
 
As far as the OP I can not answer it properly as to me evolution is not a belief or theory. It is a fact.
You believe it is a fact.
That you believe it to be a fact does not make it so.
 
Yes this may be a valid point for some of the planets out there, but because of the numbers of planets with the possibility of life likely in the billions and the possibility of intelligent life likely in the millions...many too would have evolved...some less as fast as earth and some much faster...the scenarios are almost infinite
The cool thing about the universe being infinite...
There are an infinite number of sentient beings in the universe, and its population density is effectively 0.
 
There are also other life-forms that form simbiotic relationships.

I do agree that any other intelligent life would evolve as a predator... think about it, the predator has to track, chase, and maneuover to catch his prey, whereas the prey merely has to run far enough from the predator to survive. Having versatile thumbs would be important as to have the dexterirty to fashion tools. It is also more likely that the creature be a social creature and communicate easily.



Kinda like the vulcans?? Trans-humanism would say that in the future people will be bound together with chips in the brain that relay all throughts through a central computer... sounds almost 'borg' to me

Sorry for the star trek analogy, but other than the comical use of forehead plastics to create new alien species, and everyone speaking english, all the aliens from Star Trek really are just different elements of the human psyche thrown into an interplanetary society.




As an alien species trying to take over a plaeet.. I doubt that open war-fare style conquest would be worth it in an instance where the populations are beyond a certain technological point.... on the other hand, if they were to encounter a primitive civilisation with the high tech to travel to the planet would be fairly simple to show them that you are a God and should be worshipped as such...



I'm not going to vouch for the validity, but I did see an article talking about how there was observed 'explosions' in space at roughly 180000light years away that was NOT a super-nova... the implication was that it was witnessed evidence of a war in space... Like I said, I don't know if this is legit, but I wouldn't place it in the realm of the impossible.



Also, if the speed of light is a true barrier (which in all probablility is just a limit on current technology) then there is the issue of how long it takes to actually travel between planets in space... I mean again with Star Trek, Warp 1 is Light speed, Warp 2 is like 3x light speed, warp 3 is like 9x light speed, and so on... and still it is implied days and weeks travel between planets.



That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.



Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.



How would we recognize 'God'?? Since the Bible's prohibition of 'graven images of God' we have no reference for what a 'God' might look like.

Interesting post...it appears you think a lot like I on these issues..;)
 
That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.

This is exactly why I feel we should look at the extremists that twisted religion to their own perversions as none other than a human virus that is a total threat to human society.

The absolutely only way to logically deal with this is to exterminate them so they cannot brainwash and infect the young children around them and multiply.
 
Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.

lolololololol
 
I think this goes to his point that no one knows "fer shure".

I'd say plus/minus 1% on 4.55 billion years is pretty damn close.

It's like evolution. Yes it is a scientific theory but theory in science has a much different meaning than in general use.
 
No, it really has. 4.55 billion years plus or minus 1%. If new evidence comes forward it will be evaluated. But for now, that is how old the Earth most likely is.

Thats simply ridiculous. No one knows, and no one will probably ever know.. There are just to many unknown factors for a race that has been relatively intelligent for thousands of years, and somewhat intelligent for a few hundred years to predict how old the earth is, specially when those predictions amount to 910.000 times more than 5000 years, which is approximately when our intelligent civilizations started. If you divide 4.55 billion by 300 which is the time we have been intelligent compared to the 4700 years... Yeah you get it, its ridiculous to assume the age of the earth, just like its ridiculous to assume to creation of the universe from something you see in a telescope.

Too many unknown factors, too little knowledge, too simple intelligence.
 
I used to believe that God set the initial condition and a predictable chain reaction occurred between matter and energy in such a way that cause all the events to take place. However, if some of these quantum theories are correct (ie the reaction to an action is probabilistic) then my assertion will be false.

Ergo, my theory must be compromised.


We can make an educated assumption with our current technology, but no one knows for sure how old the earth is. I'm right.

You said that the earth is millions or billions of years old. You did not now which, you just knew it couldn't be in thousands.

If Billions are a few thousand more than millions and millions are a few thousand more that billions and you take a reasonable window of estimation to include millions and billions, wouldn't an equally safe window be applied for the set of thousands and millions, making the world being 6000 years old reasonable?
 
Thats simply ridiculous. No one knows, and no one will probably ever know.. There are just to many unknown factors for a race that has been relatively intelligent for thousands of years, and somewhat intelligent for a few hundred years to predict how old the earth is, specially when those predictions amount to 910.000 times more than 5000 years, which is approximately when our intelligent civilizations started. If you divide 4.55 billion by 300 which is the time we have been intelligent compared to the 4700 years... Yeah you get it, its ridiculous to assume the age of the earth, just like its ridiculous to assume to creation of the universe from something you see in a telescope.

Too many unknown factors, too little knowledge, too simple intelligence.

I don't know...if they can do the math on an atomic bomb before they actually see one explode...I think it's very likely to be able to accurately age the earth
 
Thats simply ridiculous. No one knows, and no one will probably ever know.. There are just to many unknown factors for a race that has been relatively intelligent for thousands of years, and somewhat intelligent for a few hundred years to predict how old the earth is, specially when those predictions amount to 910.000 times more than 5000 years, which is approximately when our intelligent civilizations started.
If you divide 4.55 billion by 300 which is the time we have been intelligent compared to the 4700 years... Yeah you get it, its ridiculous to assume the age of the earth, just like its ridiculous to assume to creation of the universe from something you see in a telescope.

Too many unknown factors, too little knowledge, too simple intelligence.
First off, why do you think this? As the "Da Vinci" of this age, I assume you know what carbon dating, hell you probably invented it. That is how the age is determined. Simply because we haven't been around that long (a lot less time than your 4.55 by 300 (and where the hell did you get that number? It comes out to 1,516,666. People have only been around for about 500,000 years)).

And this:
Max said:
when those predictions amount to 910.000 times more than 5000 years, which is approximately when our intelligent civilizations started
Are you claiming that our intelligent civilizations started 4.55 billion years ago? Because that's just insane, even for you.

No one is assuming the age of the Earth. They are using scientific techniques to get a relatively accurate estimate. I'd suggest you read up on radiometric dating before saying things like this.
 
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