View Poll Results: Do You Belive In Creationsm?

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Just the fact that any planets lifeform requires an ecosystem of consumption and survival is actually quite disturbing.

    Here on earth virtually every species of life attacks and kills other species of life because it has to to survive. Based on this I believe that chances are that if we meet other lifeforms from other planets they wont be friendly.
    There are also other life-forms that form simbiotic relationships.

    I do agree that any other intelligent life would evolve as a predator... think about it, the predator has to track, chase, and maneuover to catch his prey, whereas the prey merely has to run far enough from the predator to survive. Having versatile thumbs would be important as to have the dexterirty to fashion tools. It is also more likely that the creature be a social creature and communicate easily.


    nally believe that evolution may eventually do away with emotions because all we need are logical decision making to proliferate as a species and emotions will only hinder this.
    Kinda like the vulcans?? Trans-humanism would say that in the future people will be bound together with chips in the brain that relay all throughts through a central computer... sounds almost 'borg' to me

    Sorry for the star trek analogy, but other than the comical use of forehead plastics to create new alien species, and everyone speaking english, all the aliens from Star Trek really are just different elements of the human psyche thrown into an interplanetary society.


    why I believe that if life out there finds us it will almost certainly only look at us and earth as a resource for their proliferation and have no emotion as to where we fit in.
    As an alien species trying to take over a plaeet.. I doubt that open war-fare style conquest would be worth it in an instance where the populations are beyond a certain technological point.... on the other hand, if they were to encounter a primitive civilisation with the high tech to travel to the planet would be fairly simple to show them that you are a God and should be worshipped as such...

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    The human lifespan so far is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of lifespan of the universe...

    This accounts for why we haven't seen life out there yet and possibly won't for a hundred thousand years
    I'm not going to vouch for the validity, but I did see an article talking about how there was observed 'explosions' in space at roughly 180000light years away that was NOT a super-nova... the implication was that it was witnessed evidence of a war in space... Like I said, I don't know if this is legit, but I wouldn't place it in the realm of the impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    There's that, and also the fact that it's a big damn universe. Another species could have easily had the drop on us by over a billion years, turned conquest and savagery into the purest artform and they'd be nowhere close to finding us.
    Also, if the speed of light is a true barrier (which in all probablility is just a limit on current technology) then there is the issue of how long it takes to actually travel between planets in space... I mean again with Star Trek, Warp 1 is Light speed, Warp 2 is like 3x light speed, warp 3 is like 9x light speed, and so on... and still it is implied days and weeks travel between planets.

    e first try to decide the best means by which we can survive us.
    That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Possibly one of the only two ways humans can survive themselves, is to have a clear and imminent threat from beings elsewhere in the universe. Possibly the only thing that would make humans around the world forget about their differences and bind together as one entity.
    Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.

    The other way for humans to survive themselves is to have an actual God present himself to quell all doubts and suppress any religious disputes.
    How would we recognize 'God'?? Since the Bible's prohibition of 'graven images of God' we have no reference for what a 'God' might look like.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    So you do not believe in evolution?
    Its entirely possible that ID happened in way that supports the theory of evolution.

    The bible says the Earth is only 9000 years old
    No. People say the bible says the earth is ony 9000 years old.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As far as the OP I can not answer it properly as to me evolution is not a belief or theory. It is a fact.
    You believe it is a fact.
    That you believe it to be a fact does not make it so.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    No, it really has. 4.55 billion years plus or minus 1%.
    I think this goes to his point that no one knows "fer shure".

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Yes this may be a valid point for some of the planets out there, but because of the numbers of planets with the possibility of life likely in the billions and the possibility of intelligent life likely in the millions...many too would have evolved...some less as fast as earth and some much faster...the scenarios are almost infinite
    The cool thing about the universe being infinite...
    There are an infinite number of sentient beings in the universe, and its population density is effectively 0.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    There are also other life-forms that form simbiotic relationships.

    I do agree that any other intelligent life would evolve as a predator... think about it, the predator has to track, chase, and maneuover to catch his prey, whereas the prey merely has to run far enough from the predator to survive. Having versatile thumbs would be important as to have the dexterirty to fashion tools. It is also more likely that the creature be a social creature and communicate easily.



    Kinda like the vulcans?? Trans-humanism would say that in the future people will be bound together with chips in the brain that relay all throughts through a central computer... sounds almost 'borg' to me

    Sorry for the star trek analogy, but other than the comical use of forehead plastics to create new alien species, and everyone speaking english, all the aliens from Star Trek really are just different elements of the human psyche thrown into an interplanetary society.




    As an alien species trying to take over a plaeet.. I doubt that open war-fare style conquest would be worth it in an instance where the populations are beyond a certain technological point.... on the other hand, if they were to encounter a primitive civilisation with the high tech to travel to the planet would be fairly simple to show them that you are a God and should be worshipped as such...



    I'm not going to vouch for the validity, but I did see an article talking about how there was observed 'explosions' in space at roughly 180000light years away that was NOT a super-nova... the implication was that it was witnessed evidence of a war in space... Like I said, I don't know if this is legit, but I wouldn't place it in the realm of the impossible.



    Also, if the speed of light is a true barrier (which in all probablility is just a limit on current technology) then there is the issue of how long it takes to actually travel between planets in space... I mean again with Star Trek, Warp 1 is Light speed, Warp 2 is like 3x light speed, warp 3 is like 9x light speed, and so on... and still it is implied days and weeks travel between planets.



    That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.



    Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.



    How would we recognize 'God'?? Since the Bible's prohibition of 'graven images of God' we have no reference for what a 'God' might look like.
    Interesting post...it appears you think a lot like I on these issues..

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    That's simple in principle, figure out the people that present the biggest risk to our common survival, root out their evil and be ever-vigilant to prevent this evil from rising again.
    This is exactly why I feel we should look at the extremists that twisted religion to their own perversions as none other than a human virus that is a total threat to human society.

    The absolutely only way to logically deal with this is to exterminate them so they cannot brainwash and infect the young children around them and multiply.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Do you know what Pantheism is?
    Yes. Do you know what "intelligent design" is?

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Now, I have heard of a 'project bluebeam' where through technology are aiming to create a holographic threat against humanity as a means to gain total control over humanity... again, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of this.
    lolololololol
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I think this goes to his point that no one knows "fer shure".
    I'd say plus/minus 1% on 4.55 billion years is pretty damn close.

    It's like evolution. Yes it is a scientific theory but theory in science has a much different meaning than in general use.
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