View Poll Results: Do You Belive In Creationsm?

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  • Yes I do - The Biblical version

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  • Yes I do - "Intelligent Design" - God created everything

    9 12.33%
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    51 69.86%
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    That's fine. He believed in an intelligent creator.
    Einstein clarified his religious views in a letter he wrote in response to those who claimed that he worshipped a Judeo-Christian god: "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    I probably float between Right's 2nd and 3rd definition, more the third.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    I read the post. Am I supposed to believe this is the final word? That's funny. Science has not come to the final word on anything. To think so would be very foolish.
    No, it really has. 4.55 billion years plus or minus 1%. If new evidence comes forward it will be evaluated. But for now, that is how old the Earth most likely is.

    Einstein was probably the greatest mind we have ever known and he believed in intelligent design.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    He once wrote:
    The religious inclination lies in the dim consciousness that dwells in humans that all nature, including the humans in it, is in no way an accidental game, but a work of lawfulness that there is a fundamental cause of all existence

    In a 1930 essay entitled "What I Believe," Einstein wrote:
    To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man.

    He also made the following statement in an essay entitled "The Religiousness of Science," which appeared in a collection of his essays published in English under the title "The World As I See It":

    "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation....His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an INTELLIGENCE of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection. This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work, in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles of selfish desire."
    Given that he's clearly stated he's an atheist, can you see how the above quotes could be taken as metaphore?

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    I dont' think the bible says the earth is 9000 years old. It's obviously millions of years old, perhaps billions. No one knows for sure.
    Of course we know for sure. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Of course we know for sure. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old.
    This is true and the universe is believed to be 8 to 12 billion years old

    Equate in the fact that life on earth had to start over at least 3 times because of large meteor impacts we should have been much farther in evolution

    Because of the probability of some planets with life out there that did not have a catastrophic event and start over, there are likely beings out there at least two billion years ahead of us in evolution and technology
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    This is true and the universe is believed to be 8 to 12 billion years old

    Equate in the fact that life on earth had to start over at least 3 times because of large meteor impacts we should have been much farther in evolution

    Because of the probability of some planets with life out there that did not have a catastrophic event and start over, there are likely beings out there at least two billion years ahead of us in evolution and technology
    Or not. Evolution happens because of "unfavorable" conditions. Mosquitoes and sharks have been the same for millions and millions of years because their environments have been just okey dokey for them. No need for survival of the fittest to be called into play, whereas conditions for the ancestors of homo sapiens have always been just crappy enough to warrant the strongest, most intelligent and most aggressive to come out ahead. And if it hadn't been for the last meteor (the one that killed the dinosaurs), we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As far as the OP I can not answer it properly as to me evolution is not a belief or theory. It is a fact.
    I agree with this most of all.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Or not. Evolution happens because of "unfavorable" conditions. Mosquitoes and sharks have been the same for millions and millions of years because their environments have been just okey dokey for them. No need for survival of the fittest to be called into play, whereas conditions for the ancestors of homo sapiens have always been just crappy enough to warrant the strongest, most intelligent and most aggressive to come out ahead. And if it hadn't been for the last meteor (the one that killed the dinosaurs), we wouldn't be having this discussion.
    Yes this may be a valid point for some of the planets out there, but because of the numbers of planets with the possibility of life likely in the billions and the possibility of intelligent life likely in the millions...many too would have evolved...some less as fast as earth and some much faster...the scenarios are almost infinite

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Or really, really, really long threads with lots of pictures.


    and very little coherent language.
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