View Poll Results: Do You Belive In Creationsm?

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  • Yes I do - The Biblical version

    3 4.11%
  • Yes I do - "Intelligent Design" - God created everything

    9 12.33%
  • No - I believe in the Theory of Evolution (Darwinism)

    51 69.86%
  • None of the above - please explain

    10 13.70%
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Yeah, that always seemed strange to me. I mean, we all still know exactly who Ron is referring to. But hey, whatever works for you.
    It's like when they put FUGET YOU on cable. Like we don't know what he's trying to say.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Einstein was an agnostic. He did allude to a "superior spirit" being manifest in nature but this was not an endorsement of theism.

    Einstein was not a man who wished to be boxed in by movements or belief systems. His truest wisdom was in knowing that we know nothing. He was a humble man and I doubt you would find him insulting others on the basis of their religious beliefs, nor would you find him making absolutist claims on anything metaphysical. He appreciated the mystery of creation and our small place in it. He didn't try to confine it or master it, he simply stood in awe of it...

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    So you do not believe in evolution? The bible says the Earth is only 9000 years old....so do you think that Dinosaurs are a myth or that they lived with man?

    I'm curious as to your beliefs. Thanks!
    The Bible does not state that the earth is 9000 years old. If one goes by Biblical Timelines / Genealogies, then the Bible states that the world, and entire Universe for that matter, is around 6500 to 7000 years old.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Also, this poll is flawed. The first two options are questions of belief, in that one has to choose to believe them or not.

    The third option is a question of acceptance, in that one either accepts the enormous body of empirical evidence in support of it, or they don't. Otherwise, the only reason why someone would not accept Evolution, is that:

    1. They are largely ignorant of almost everything we know about life sciences.

    or

    2. They are literalistic in their religious beliefs and thus will not accept mainstream science if it seems to contradict their personal religious beliefs.

    or

    3. They have some personal / psychological issue with the thought of having evolved.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Einstein was an agnostic. He did allude to a "superior spirit" being manifest in nature but this was not an endorsement of theism.

    Einstein was not a man who wished to be boxed in by movements or belief systems. His truest wisdom was in knowing that we know nothing. He was a humble man and I doubt you would find him insulting others on the basis of their religious beliefs, nor would you find him making absolutist claims on anything metaphysical. He appreciated the mystery of creation and our small place in it. He didn't try to confine it or master it, he simply stood in awe of it...
    Well said
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What fact changes? You had a dollar on Feb 15 2009. (Which was today, yesterday)

    Giving the dollar away doesn't change that fact. You will ALWAYS have had that dollar on Feb 15, 2009.

    Saying today doesn't make it accurate. Today is an amorphous idea representing the current day.

    Saying "I have a dollar today" literally means "I have a dollar on Feb 16, 2009". It doesn't imply anything more than that.


    Stop playing word games.
    Reading back through I think I see what your saying.

    We can declare something today as "fact", because as far as we know it is fact, but if we discover something in the future that eliminates that fact and existed, unknowingly, when the initial declaration was made then the "fact" was never a fact.

    Example
    Fact: The Moon is made of cheese
    Change: It is proven at a later date that the moon is and always had been made of rock.

    Initial fact was never a fact.

    If something is declared as "fact" but later something changes, that didn't exist previously, then the old fact is still a fact at that time but today is not a fact because the environment change.
    Example
    Fact: I have a $1 bill.
    Change: 2 days later I give my $1 bill away

    Initial fact is still a fact at that moment but is no longer presently a fact.

    Does that sum it up correctly?
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Reading back through I think I see what your saying.

    We can declare something today as "fact", because as far as we know it is fact, but if we discover something in the future that eliminates that fact and existed, unknowingly, when the initial declaration was made then the "fact" was never a fact.

    Example
    Fact: The Moon is made of cheese
    Change: It is proven at a later date that the moon is and always had been made of rock.

    Initial fact was never a fact.

    If something is declared as "fact" but later something changes, that didn't exist previously, then the old fact is still a fact at that time but today is not a fact because the environment change.
    Example
    Fact: I have a $1 bill.
    Change: 2 days later I give my $1 bill away

    Initial fact is still a fact at that moment but is no longer presently a fact.

    Does that sum it up correctly?
    Yes. Perfectly summed up. Thank you for that.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Yes. Perfectly summed up. Thank you for that.
    Good I can definitely agree with that. This philosophical crap is hard to wrap my head around at times.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Good I can definitely agree with that. This philosophical crap is hard to wrap my head around at times.
    It's the realm of uber-dorks like myself.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Thought I'd get a read on who in this community believes in Creationism which is defined as:

    Let us know what you believe.
    Your poll is bad.

    One believes in biblical creationism/Intelligent design because they are faith based ideas devoid of any empirical evidence whatsoever.

    Evolution however, is a science that requires understanding of the principles, merits and numerous experiments all concluding that it is likely to be true.

    One believes in YEC/ID.

    One understands evolution.
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