View Poll Results: Do You Belive In Creationsm?

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  • Yes I do - The Biblical version

    3 4.11%
  • Yes I do - "Intelligent Design" - God created everything

    9 12.33%
  • No - I believe in the Theory of Evolution (Darwinism)

    51 69.86%
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Thread: Do You Believe in Creationism?

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And so, you then agree that Evolution is not a fact.
    My argument is that we can never truly know what a "fact" is, because we as human beings like omnipotence. Therefore, all we have to go off of are our sensory organs, gut feelings, logic and evidence.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't see how facts can change. This is one of those black and white issues. Eitehr somehtign is fact, or it is not. There is no subjectivity involved. If it turns out that was thought to be a fact is actually false, it doesn't mean it was once true. It was always false, it was just not understood that ti was false.
    When you are walking outside on a clear and sunny day is it a fact that the sky is blue? At night or on cloudy day when the sky is in fact NOT blue is the fact the the sky is blue now false but was once true?
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    My argument is that we can never truly know what a "fact" is, because we as human beings like omnipotence. Therefore, all we have to go off of are our sensory organs, gut feelings, logic and evidence.
    And so, you then agree that Evolution is not a fact.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    I believe in evolution but do not discount the possibility of of an "intelligent" spark starting life.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    At the time, it was considered a fact. That is my point.
    The fact is that people believed it and they were wrong. This doesn't make the belief itself a fact, though.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    When you are walking outside on a clear and sunny day is it a fact that the sky is blue? At night or on cloudy day when the sky is in fact NOT blue is the fact the the sky is blue now false but was once true?
    There are no changes of fact. The sky is not blue. The sky APPEARS blue in daylight because the molecules in the atmosphere cause a Rayleigh scattering of light waves. In essense, during the day the sky appears blue because blue light is scattered about so that in every direction one looks, blue light alone will hit the eye.

    But the sky itself has no color, only the light which is scattered does.

    The fact is that the sky is colorless. The appearance of blue is actually a phenomenon of light scattering.

    When no light is present to scatter, the is no scattered light.

    Belief that the sky itself is blue is erroneous.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There are no changes of fact. The sky is not blue. The sky APPEARS blue in daylight because the molecules in the atmosphere cause a Rayleigh scattering of light waves. In essense, during the day the sky appears blue because blue light is scattered about so that in every direction one looks, blue light alone will hit the eye.

    But the sky itself has no color, only the light which is scattered does.

    The fact is that the sky is colorless. The appearance of blue is actually a phenomenon of light scattering.

    When no light is present to scatter, the is no scattered light.

    Belief that the sky itself is blue is erroneous.
    All this, because someone thinks that evolution is a FACT.


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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There are no changes of fact. The sky is not blue. The sky APPEARS blue in daylight because the molecules in the atmosphere cause a Rayleigh scattering of light waves. In essense, during the day the sky appears blue because blue light is scattered about so that in every direction one looks, blue light alone will hit the eye.

    But the sky itself has no color, only the light which is scattered does.

    The fact is that the sky is colorless. The appearance of blue is actually a phenomenon of light scattering.

    When no light is present to scatter, the is no scattered light.

    Belief that the sky itself is blue is erroneous.
    Was hoping you wouldn't realize that.

    Let's use the dollar bill example. You hold a dollar bill in your hand. That is a fact. You hand the dollar bill to someone else. Is that fact that you held a dollar bill false?
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Let's use the dollar bill example. You hold a dollar bill in your hand. That is a fact.
    That is not necessarily a fact.
    You may think you hve $1 in your hands, but you may very well not.
    But, ignoring that...
    You hand the dollar bill to someone else.
    Is that fact that you held a dollar bill false?
    You HAD a dollar bill. Past tense.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All this, because someone thinks that evolution is a FACT.

    Evolution is a scientific theory based on factual elements. It is not a fact itself.

    Creationism is a belief system in its entirety.
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