View Poll Results: Do You Belive In Creationsm?

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  • Yes I do - The Biblical version

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  • Yes I do - "Intelligent Design" - God created everything

    9 12.33%
  • No - I believe in the Theory of Evolution (Darwinism)

    51 69.86%
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Wrong.
    Something only becomes a fact because we, as a society, deem it to be so.
    Wrong.
    2+2=4.
    This is a fact, regardless who thinks so and who does not.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But it may, in fact, be a fact.
    It may be.
    But, stating that it may be a fact and that it is a fact are different things.

    Never mind that even if evolution IS a fact, it doesn't disprove ID.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Never mind that even if evolution IS a fact, it doesn't disprove ID.
    This is true. If I were religious I would assume that evolution was the deity's device for creating life as he wished it to be.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    I personally don't like to believe any one thing. I think that whatever the explanation could be it is far beyond our realm of understanding and thinking. I think the fact that there are several theories out there shows that we are egotistical creatures who feel like we can sufficiently explain the eternal complexities of the meaning of life. I don't think we'll ever be able to sufficiently explain it.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It may be.
    But, stating that it may be a fact and that it is a fact are different things.

    Never mind that even if evolution IS a fact, it doesn't disprove ID.
    True. ID may well be the reality. But ID is not science, it is philosophy.

    ID shouldn't be in opposition to evolution, IMO.

    One can easily view evolutionary theory as an attempt to explain the mechanisms employed by the "Intelligent designer".

    And there is plenty of evidence to suggest the concept of a "totally random mutations" in evolution is flawed. Sound arguments can be made using convergent evolution to show that it is very unlikely that purely random mutations are not the driving force behind evolution (The various animal types that employ some form of sonar, such as bats and dolphins, for example).

    The issue would be if that lack of randomness is evidence of an intelligent designer (possible) or some law of nature we, as of yet, have no clue about (also possible).

    And even if said law of nature were ever discovered, it would not be evidence against an Intelligent Designer. It could easily just be viewed as another mechanism employed by said Designer.

    IMO, science only seeks to discover the "how" of things. The "why" is the realm of philosophy and religion.

    In other words, science is not in opposition to religion, and vice versa. They can be very complimentary to each other.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    True. ID may well be the reality. But ID is not science, it is philosophy
    Ah.
    It is not a 'science' because as of yet we do not posess the capability to measure what's necessary to create the science around it.

    That is, if God created the universe through ID, there must have been a procees by which it happened. That we cannot currently measure that procees does not mean that process doesnt exist.

    ID shouldn't be in opposition to evolution, IMO.
    One can easily view evolutionary theory as an attempt to explain the mechanisms employed by the "Intelligent designer".
    Absolutely.

    And there is plenty of evidence to suggest the concept of a "totally random mutations" in evolution is flawed. Sound arguments can be made using convergent evolution to show that it is very unlikely that purely random mutations are not the driving force behind evolution (The various animal types that employ some form of sonar, such as bats and dolphins, for example).
    In a universe governed completely by the laws of physics, nothing is random.

    In other words, science is not in opposition to religion, and vice versa. They can be very complimentary to each other.
    Yes.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Wrong.
    2+2=4.
    This is a fact, regardless who thinks so and who does not.
    So is "human beings need oxygen" not a fact? Interesting that you completely ignored the second half of my post.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So is "human beings need oxygen" not a fact? Interesting that you completely ignored the second half of my post.
    Is the fact that 2+2=4 dependent on the agreement of society?

    Of course not.

    Thus, you premise that facts are determned by the consensus of society is flawed, as is then any example based on that premise -- and thus, the second half of your post need not be addressed.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In a universe governed completely by the laws of physics, nothing is random
    Now that would be an interesting philosophical debate. Chaos theory seems to contradict it, but is it simply apparently random or is it truly random?
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    Re: Do You Believe in Creationism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Now that would be an interesting philosophical debate. Chaos theory seems to contradict it, but is it simply apparently random or is it truly random?
    There is a difference between 'unpredictable' and 'random'.

    That we cannot currently predict the behavior of a particle or the outcome of a process does not mean that said process or beheavior is not governed by some law that, once discovered or understood, would allow said predictability.

    In a world governed -completely- by physics, everything that has happened and that will ever happen was set in stone by the big bang.

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