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Thread: If you are fighting...

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    If you are fighting...

    ...for the power to create a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government, are you fighting for freedom?

    If not, then can you be a 'freedom fighter'?

    Please explain your answers.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-10-09 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    can you be more specific? under which government is the "you" you ask about? whom is you fighting? why? define "murderous." define "freedom."

    ps. why do you hate America?
    Last edited by niftydrifty; 02-10-09 at 01:31 PM.
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    Can you be more specific? under which government is the "you" you ask about? whom is you fighting? why? define "murderous." define "freedom."
    You don't need these questions answered in order to address the questions I asked. You're simply tying to find away to attack the premise of the questions in order to find a way to argue that you can legitimately answwer yes-yes.

    Why not just answer yes-yes and explain your answer?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-10-09 at 01:39 PM.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You don't need these questions answered in order to address the questions I asked. You're simply tying to find away to attack the premise of the questions in order to find a way to argue that you can legitimately answwer yes-yes.

    Why not just asnwer yes-yes and explain your answer?
    no, my answer, honestly, is "it depends." it depends upon the context. it depends upon what you mean by your terms. if you don't want to supply a context, then my answer is, "it depends."
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    no, my answer, honestly, is "it depends." it depends upon the context. it depends upon what you mean by your terms. if you don't want to supply a context, then my answer is, "it depends."
    Interesting.
    When does a murderous, oppressive theocracy ever equate to freedom?

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    No-No.

    Seems pretty plain on its face.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ...for the power to create a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government, are you fighting for freedom?

    If not, then can you be a 'freedom fighter'?

    Please explain your answers.
    Are you talking about the Taliban?

    If you are, then my answers are No and No. I don't think there's any explanation needed. An oppressive government is the anti-thesis of freedom, at least the way we define freedom in the West.

    I could go one step further, tho. Anyone who fights to create any type of government is not fighting for freedom. Government, no matter how democratic always restricts people's freedom in some way, at least the way I define freedom. However, if we're fighting against an oppressive regime to replace it with a less oppressive one, then I guess I could call those people "freedom fighters".
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Are you talking about the Taliban?
    It doesnt really matter who it is...

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    One question, and it is highly pertinent:

    Are the people fighting being prevented from self-determination by the current regime? i.e. Are they not given a vote/voice in the current government?
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Interesting.
    When does a murderous, oppressive theocracy ever equate to freedom?
    how oppressive? what kind of murderous? how much theocracy? what kinds of freedoms?

    it's interesting that I don't want to assume very much? but you expect me to?

    interesting.
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