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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Am I off base?
    If you are asking if you've addressed the question in the poll, then then answer is no.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ...for the power to create a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government, are you fighting for freedom?

    If not, then can you be a 'freedom fighter'?

    Please explain your answers.
    I answered "no,no". A a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government is not freedom,therefore they are not freedom fighters. The only people who use the "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" line are Eurotrash and anti-american scum.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ...for the power to create a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government, are you fighting for freedom?

    If not, then can you be a 'freedom fighter'?

    Please explain your answers.
    Holy unadulterated bias, batman.
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I answered "no,no". A a murderous, oppressive, theocratic government is not freedom,therefore they are not freedom fighters. The only people who use the "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" line are Eurotrash and anti-american scum.
    ...and only the ignorant make such silly blanket statements.
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    One question, and it is highly pertinent:

    Are the people fighting being prevented from self-determination by the current regime? i.e. Are they not given a vote/voice in the current government?
    Yes, this is the heart of the matter.

    The Mujahideen and Taliban were freedom fighters in the sense that they were trying to remove the Soviet Union from their nation. One can argue that the bull**** govt under Karzai is for freedom, but that's naive.
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    If you are fighting for an oppressive theocracy, and your intent is (once you've won) to oppose your will on everyone, then "yes" you still are fighting for A FREEDOM.

    You are fighting for the freedom/power impose you will on another. Thus, you are a freedom fighter.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    If you are fighting for an oppressive theocracy, and your intent is (once you've won) to oppose your will on everyone, then "yes" you still are fighting for A FREEDOM.

    You are fighting for the freedom/power impose you will on another. Thus, you are a freedom fighter.
    I didnt ask if you were fighting for 'a' freedom, but freedom, period.

    Fighting for the power to oppress others isnt fighting for freedom.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    The Mujahideen and Taliban were freedom fighters in the sense that they were trying to remove the Soviet Union from their nation.
    The Taliban did not exist until the mid 90s.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The Taliban did not exist until the mid 90s.
    these were the same people doing the same thing in the same place, but since now they attack the USA they are evil terrorists.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    these were the same people doing the same thing in the same place, but since now they attack the USA they are evil terrorists.
    As noted eslewhere, there's no direct link between the entities.
    Your correlation here is unsound.

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