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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Tis just a point of view and how you see the world .. Of course there are some extremist nuts in the world.

    What is hard for some to understand, is that it is matter of opinion and
    having the right teacher/preacher/iman/priest to give us information. If one opposes mainstream in Middle East or in America, one can be considered a nut.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    In correct usage, they are not subjective, bub. To be a freedom fighter, you must fight for freedom. To be a terrorist, you must purposely target civilians.

    Even if I incorrectly label a group that targets civilians as "freedom fighters", if they are not fighting for freedom, that label is incorrect.
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    Then we are arguing about what is freedom

    Main Entry:
    free·dom Listen to the pronunciation of freedom
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    1: the quality or state of being free: as a: the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action b: liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence c
    On the social level, they do not fight for freedom, indeed (they want to force the Sharia upon everyone in their society), but on the international level, yes, they fight for freedom, in the sense that they want to be independent from any Western influence and live like they want

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    Wow, you must be very glad that we got rid of George Bush, so we won't have to through that.
    Here's a topic which may interest you.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...-consider.html
    2001-2008: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
    2009-2016: Dissent is the highest form of racism.
    2017-? (Probably): Dissent is the highest form of misogyny.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    In correct usage, they are not subjective, bub. To be a freedom fighter, you must fight for freedom. To be a terrorist, you must purposely target civilians.
    Yes. And this is why it doesnt matter what RWR or the CIA calls you.

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    But suppose we accept that Reagan called them ALL "freedom fighters."

    What now?
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Now, come ON -- after all that energy expended to prove that Reagan's answer would have to be "yes-yes," SURELY there must be some follow-up.

    What now?
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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Hello darkness, my old friend...

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    ...and only the ignorant make such silly blanket statements.
    If it isn't true then why is it that the ones who make such a silly ignorant blanket statement that one "man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" are liberals and Eurotrash?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Another simple question where people begin word wars when they can't attack the premise.

    I wonder if simply answering the question ever occurred to them, but w/e

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    Re: If you are fighting...

    Deeply underwhelmed by the above two convincing "arguments" put forward...

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