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    A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    How many here would favor a 10% pay cut for all federal and state elected officials? There would be no raise for four years. I don't know how to get this in to a poll but it just rubs me wrong looking and hearing our self-serving, lying officals sound off as if they give a crap about the citizens of America as we go through this eononmic crisis. Why hasn't a single politician offered up a cut in their pay instead of everyone elses? Think how much that would be over a period of four years and what could be done with the money.
    Think if Trump get elected how much resistance he will face with in all phases of our country from people to military to politicians. He must not win.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    What I favor is making politicians do what every employed person here in USA does when they want a raise, they ask their boss for a raise. With all the local elections,ballot issues always going on there is absolutely no reason what so ever to not put the issue up for a vote. They have a pay raise raise ballot initiative at least once a year(maybe more than once a year depending on length of term). When pay raise issue comes up, the politician can explain in a ad or commercial why he or she deserves a raise and other groups can explain why that politician doesn't deserve a raise.

    Making politicians seek pay raises from their bosses IE we the tax payer would ensure that they know who their employers.

    A few ideas ensure that there is no corruption and that is a fair process would be-

    1.Pay raise/pay decrease/no change ballots for politicians representing that voter's district, in other words people living in one voting district would not be allowed to decided if politicians representing another district get a pay raise/decrease or no change.

    2.Pay raise/pay decrease/no change options for every politician representing that voter's district so that the politicians you feel that deserve a raise you can vote yes and the ones you do not feel they deserve a raise or that the deserve a pay decrease you can do so.

    3. Groups funding "no they do not deserve a raise", "Yes they deserve a pay raise" or "they deserve a pay decrease ads" must be living as well as registered voters in that politician's district. This ensures that individuals/groups can not run ads for or against a politician that does not represent them.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    ....assuming that most of the money they make is from their salary.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Nah. Most elected officials have pretty modest salaries. Even the president only makes $400K per year...which is extremely low, considering the amount of responsibility with which we give him.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nah. Most elected officials have pretty modest salaries. Even the president only makes $400K per year...which is extremely low.
    If they wanted to make a **** load of money then they should have went into private sector not into public service.BTW 400k is a ****load of money to most people.

    considering the amount of responsibility with which we give him
    Their job is to serve the people,if they do not do it right then we their bosses should deny them raises and give them pay cuts if necessary.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If they wanted to make a **** load of money then they should have went into private sector not into public service.
    Well that's the point. There is a dearth of talent in the public sector, because the best and brightest know that they can make more money elsewhere. This is part of the reason politicians are usually idiots.

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    BTW 400k is a ****load of money to most people.
    It's a lot of money if your job is to dig ditches. It's really not that much if your job is to run the United States government.

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    Their job is to serve the people,if they do not do it right then we their bosses should deny them raises and give them pay cuts if necessary.
    Perhaps if we paid them more in the first place, the public sector would attract more people who WOULD "do it right."
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Right now, with the financial crisis we are supposed to be in ...all people who are overpaid should return the money and take a pay cut...but we do not have the quality of people for that to happen !
    These people have requested that union workers take a pay cut, but they should take the same cut as well ! !

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    You are all leaving out what the stooges make in lobbying, book writing, public speaking, public, radio and television guest appearances. To all that say they are not desrving of wht they are salaried at try pulling your head out of your butts and you will find sitting down is less painful. Don't forget all the money they make under the table that goes unnoticed until they get caught.
    Think if Trump get elected how much resistance he will face with in all phases of our country from people to military to politicians. He must not win.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    I would actually argue that politicians salaries should be increased. The amount of money their salaries require is minimal compared to the money that they are responsible for. I'd view paying politician as an investment to avoid future expenses. Upfront costs are higher, but you would probably get it all back and more from having less lobbyist influence on the political process as a whole. Paying 100k more in salary now would probably be cheaper than paying 1 million in pork later.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I would actually argue that politicians salaries should be increased. The amount of money their salaries require is minimal compared to the money that they are responsible for. I'd view paying politician as an investment to avoid future expenses. Upfront costs are higher, but you would probably get it all back and more from having less lobbyist influence on the political process as a whole. Paying 100k more in salary now would probably be cheaper than paying 1 million in pork later.
    Just to play devils advocate, another scenario that could occur is that corporations would increase their "donations" to appeal more to the now higher paid politicians. This higher spend from the corporation could then translate into increased prices to the consumer.

    A corporation is not going to not spend more to get pork into bill that if passed could either make or cost them millions of dollars.
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