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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    It's a job of service, they are NOT supposed to be doing it for monetary gain.
    What a simpleton understanding of what the job of the POTUS is. Yes rivrrat the job of a Public Servant is one of Public Service. And the job of a police man is to police the streets. And that of a pig farmer is to care of pigs. This however does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to show why Public Servants shouldn't be paid more. Because they work for the public does not mean that you get to ignore the kind of responsibilities a job carries and paid accordingly to those responsibilities. 400K is not even remotely enough.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What a simpleton understanding of what the job of the POTUS is. Yes rivrrat the job of a Public Servant is one of Public Service. And the job of a police man is to police the streets. And that of a pig farmer is to care of pigs. This however does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to show why Public Servants shouldn't be paid more. Because they work for the public does not mean that you get to ignore the kind of responsibilities a job carries and paid accordingly to those responsibilities. 400K is not even remotely enough.



    I left this for last. So the **** what?
    Lets not forget all the benefits they get after they get out. The lobbying connections, "charity" donations, and other quite lucrative deals.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What a simpleton understanding of what the job of the POTUS is. Yes rivrrat the job of a Public Servant is one of Public Service. And the job of a police man is to police the streets. And that of a pig farmer is to care of pigs. This however does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to show why Public Servants shouldn't be paid more. Because they work for the public does not mean that you get to ignore the kind of responsibilities a job carries and paid accordingly to those responsibilities. 400K is not even remotely enough.
    It's far too much. If some person thinks that it's not enough money to serve their country in that capacity, then they shouldn't run for office. And anyone who wouldn't run for office because it's not enough money is NOT someone I'd want for president anyway.


    I left this for last. So the **** what?
    Apparently some people actually give a **** about that. Usually high powered people who like to be in the spotlight. Like, oh, I dunno... world leaders.


    EDIT: 400k is more than many - if not most - Americans make in 15 - 20 years. 400k PLUS NO EXPENSES. Plus travel anywhere they want to go. You may think that living without expenses is "nothing" but I assure you it's considered part of a salary package. Then, after 4 - 8 years (and becoming a ****ing millionaire), they get 200k a year for the rest of their lives. They don't ever have to work again and can live quite happily on that amount of money until they fall into the grave.

    It's far too much to make our Presidents millionaires for a 4 - 8 year service.
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    Definitely. And one more thing...

    The pay, allowances, and all other remuniration for public officials should always be subject to a vote of the people. That should settle it.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm more interested in term limits.
    Dear God, please no more term limits for legislators. That's one of the things gumming up California right now. All of the politicians that have been in office for a while, have mellowed out, have figured out how everything works, and have formed the relationships that help facilitate comprimise, get the boot and are replaced by idiot firebrands from Orange County and San Francisco that come to Sacramento with these ideological blinders, and nothing gets done. I think that's one of the three biggest things that need to be changed here, next to initiative rules and the 2/3 budget rule.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicians

    Term limits are a bad idea ?
    Probably.
    What is a bad idea is having our reps running for two year terms....this is insane...
    Doing nothing is a bad idea
    Are our government people overpaid ?
    In most cases, IMO, YES.
    I "talked " revolution 20 years ago, now I believe it is needed....its too late for reform.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicians

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Term limits are a bad idea ?
    Probably.
    What is a bad idea is having our reps running for two year terms....this is insane...
    Doing nothing is a bad idea
    Are our government people overpaid ?
    In most cases, IMO, YES.
    I "talked " revolution 20 years ago, now I believe it is needed....its too late for reform.
    what kind of revolution do you have in mind
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    I've always been caught between the 'people who run should do so because they fear what lesser people would do in their place' (Socrates in case you're wondering) and therefore shouldn't get paid and high salaries are needed to attract top talent.

    On one hand idiots in government gets us idiot government. But high salaries are expensive and we STILL get idiots in government who are also often corrupt.
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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    Benjamin Franklin onced warned of man's greed for both power and wealth mixing in a dangerous way if we pay our President at all.

    I believe that elected officials- including the President as well as Congressmen- should not be paid any more than the median national income. In fact, it would be great if they could be paid less. Most elected officials are rich anyways, which was part of Franklin's point.

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    Re: A Pay Cut For All Elected Politicans

    how does it go, and who said it?
    something like, the job pays X amount plus all you can steal....
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