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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    There are huge problems with democracy that cannot really be addressed. Even in Europe now its turning into two opposing poles of extremes that work against each other, while all middle ground is disappearing slowly..

    Just like in the US politics in Europe is increasingly becoming about media appearance and not substance, more about white teeth and money than about political platform and serious and difficult changes. Its not about proving that you are right anymore, its more about discrediting everyone else the most. And so fourth even democracy in Europe is in decline like it surely has been for awhile in the US.

    Democracy in the US is reaching the last stage of democracy, while democracy in Europe is approaching the last stage, if we aren't in it already.
    That is more or less how I feel about it to. The people are exploiting the largess of the treasury, it is really a matter of time before it comes to a head.

    I try to think that their is something that can change this effect, this last election was a complete crap shoot.

    I hope a third party makes a push for more seats in 2 years or for the President in 4. That may help correct the negative actions of the last 80 years.
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That is more or less how I feel about it to. The people are exploiting the largess of the treasury, it is really a matter of time before it comes to a head.

    I try to think that their is something that can change this effect, this last election was a complete crap shoot.

    I hope a third party makes a push for more seats in 2 years or for the President in 4. That may help correct the negative actions of the last 80 years.
    And yes, then you have the rich who are taking over politics, and the media who controls how people end up voting. And even if you aren't brainwashed or fooled by all these things and the things in the previous post, then your vote doesn't actually matter anyways, 1 vote amongst 300 million, an excuse to call it democracy while there are no other ways the people can affect politics, unless of course they are rich.


    1 vote among 3 matters greatly.
    1 vote amongst 5 is mostly deciding.
    1 vote amongst 10 is meaningful.
    1 vote amongst 20 has an effect on the result.
    1 vote amongst 50 matters.
    1 vote amongst 100 doesnt mean much.
    1 vote amongst 1.000 matters little.
    1 vote amongst 100.000 is meaningless.
    1 vote amongst millions is completely irrelevant.

    Having only two OPTIONS makes it even more meaningless.
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    I have a weird suspicion that France will have a Communist uprising in the future, and that the uprising will succeed, and that France will become a Communist nation.

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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    I have a weird suspicion that France will have a Communist uprising in the future, and that the uprising will succeed, and that France will become a Communist nation.
    Vive le Commune de Paris!
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by George VI View Post
    I have a weird suspicion that France will have a Communist uprising in the future, and that the uprising will succeed, and that France will become a Communist nation.
    Yeah, whatever France does is an example for others to follow apparently. Lest that is what all have been doing.
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    And yes, then you have the rich who are taking over politics, and the media who controls how people end up voting. And even if you aren't brainwashed or fooled by all these things and the things in the previous post, then your vote doesn't actually matter anyways, 1 vote amongst 300 million, an excuse to call it democracy while there are no other ways the people can affect politics, unless of course they are rich.


    1 vote among 3 matters greatly.
    1 vote amongst 5 is mostly deciding.
    1 vote amongst 10 is meaningful.
    1 vote amongst 20 has an effect on the result.
    1 vote amongst 50 matters.
    1 vote amongst 100 doesnt mean much.
    1 vote amongst 1.000 matters little.
    1 vote amongst 100.000 is meaningless.
    1 vote amongst millions is completely irrelevant.
    Isn't this an argument against expanding the power of the EU at the expense of much more local governments?
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    Isn't this an argument against expanding the power of the EU at the expense of much more local governments?
    What are you talking about? Isnt that completely irrelevant? In any case its somewhat that as well. I believe in regional governance, but I also believe in semi democratic elite governments that leads those in the right direction.
    Last edited by Maximus Zeebra; 02-09-09 at 04:02 AM.
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Will the US Become a Banana Republic? by Marc Faber

    Is the US slowly becoming a banana republic?





    Please refrain from your usual outburst and calling me anti-American again..
    What country are you from?
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What country are you from?
    What if I was from Texas?

    Actually my home country is also turning into a Banana Republic. So I am pre-emptively admitting that before you need to know which country it is.. Even so I have told it tons of times on this forum..

    Still need to know?
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    Re: US of Banana Republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    And yes, then you have the rich who are taking over politics, and the media who controls how people end up voting. And even if you aren't brainwashed or fooled by all these things and the things in the previous post, then your vote doesn't actually matter anyways, 1 vote amongst 300 million, an excuse to call it democracy while there are no other ways the people can affect politics, unless of course they are rich.
    Sometimes I don't even know where to start with you and your complete ignorance of everything that is American.

    1. 300 million people in this country do not vote. More like 80-110 million VOTERS.

    2. People who aren't rich can affect politics. Case and point Obama, VP. Biden, Sarah Palin, Cindy Sheehan, McCain. Most of these people weren't rich when they started out and to this day they aren't remotely rich by whatever standards it is you think 'rich' is. I'd wager anything it just means somebody who works and gets paid for more then 40 hours a week of work.

    3. The definition of democracy :

    democracy - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    1 a: government by the people ; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
    The United States is a Representative Republic. Meaning the people elect their representatives. Why do I bring this up?

    Well in every state we have :

    1. Representatives. These people are elected by a minute percentage of the U.S. ie. the people who live in the corresponding district.

    2. Governors. Once again elected but this time by the entire state to preserve the idea that every single state is a sovereign state.

    3. Senators. Once again elected by the people of their corresponding states.

    4. POTUS : The CinC/Head Executive of the entire United States eligible voting population.

    So what have we established?

    1. You do not know the definition of a 'democracy'.

    2. You do not know how a democracy works i.e. ONE person, ONE vote.

    3. You do not know how the United States government works.

    4. You do not know who does and doesn't vote in the United States.

    5. Your premise that people who aren't rich can not have an effect on politics.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-10-09 at 01:28 AM.
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