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What do you call expelling a foreign occupation?
I know there's a word for this.
What do you call expelling a foreign occupation?
Theocracy?I know there's a word for this.
Sounds like IT has a babysitter fetish. :lol:Great, go tell your babysitter that you won a debate and get your cookie.
I won't tell her you never addressed my point and didn't bother pursuing the question of mine you avoided.
My question is valid, own its own, regardless of your position or that of anyone else.I'm glad you left out the part where I said your question was loaded and misrepresented my position.
Theocracy?
Nah, pointing out that you want me to answer a question which misrepresents my position is more than enough to discredit your feeble attempt at an argument.My question is valid, own its own, regardless of your position or that of anyone else.
Thus, your laments, above, are meaningless, and are nothing more than a lame attempt to keep from having to address my question.
But please - point out another typo.
You keep thinking that, sport.Nah, pointing out that you want me to answer a question which misrepresents my position is more than enough to discredit your feeble attempt at an argument.
You keep thinking that, sport.
Meanwhile, I will keep wondering how it is that fighting for the power to create an oppressive theocracy equates to fighitng for freedom.
Clearly, someone with -your- mad debate skillz should be able to handle such a softball.
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Known collaborators? Then I would say no.
100% true.
Washington was a freedom fighter according to historical record today, but if he had lost then he would have been a terrorist.
Maybe you should ask someone who supports that position. Seems to be the best way to get that answer.You keep thinking that, sport.
Meanwhile, I will keep wondering how it is that fighting for the power to create an oppressive theocracy equates to fighitng for freedom.
It depends on the cause of what you are fighting for. I know some people who try to compare terrorists to Americans in the Revolutionary war and I think that is absurd. Americans were fighting for freedom from tyranny. Muslim fascists are fighting to establish a theocracy of enslavement. That is not a "freedom fighter" in my opinion. I think it all comes down to the cause of your fight.
Why can you not fight for freedom while killing innocent people?I disagree with the statement for the simple reason that a terrorist intentionally targets innocent men women and children. A freedom fighter is fighting against totalitarianism. Fighting for freedom.
Why can you not fight for freedom while killing innocent people?
So you are saying that you cannot be a terrorist and a freedom fighter at the same time? I disagree.You can. The key word in my statment was intentionally. If your intent is to kill innocents you are a terrorist. Terrorist know this and they use it against us. That is why they use human shields. Then they can use propaganda to try to convince the rest of the world that we are the terrorist.
Like the pictures of bloody children comming out of Gaza.
So you are saying that you cannot be a terrorist and a freedom fighter at the same time? I disagree.
It does make sense. Now explain that to Goobieman, he seems to be having trouble understanding.I suppose you could be both a freedom fighter and a terrorist. But if you are a freedom fighter and you intentionally kill innocent civilians you are a terrorist. Does that make sense? Again the key is intent.
But... are Hamas/Hezbollah actually fighting for freedom?
For whom? Defined how?
Hamas takes its name from the Arabic initials for the Islamic Resistance Movement.
Branded a terrorist organisation by Israel, the US and the EU, it is seen by its supporters as a legitimate fighting force defending Palestinians from a brutal military occupation.
It is the largest Palestinian militant Islamist organisation, formed in 1987 at the beginning of the first intifada, or Palestinian uprising against Israel's occupation in the West Bank and Gaza.
The group's short-term aim has been to drive Israeli forces from the occupied territories. To achieve this it has launched attacks on Israeli troops and settlers in the Palestinian territories and against civilians in Israel.
It also has a long-term aim of establishing an Islamic state on all of historic Palestine - most of which has been contained within Israel's borders since its creation in 1948.
They are seen as a resistance movement to their people, seen as terrorists by those opposed to them.
Source: BBC Profile
Generally however the victor in any conflict gets to write the long term version of history, we're not there yet.