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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So by your logic, we as Americans are oppressed.
    There's absolutely nothing in my statement that supports this.
    You're now trying to misdirect the conversation.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That's not fighting for freedom, that's fighting for power.
    Power to force people to live a certain way.
    FREEDOM IS THE POWER TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

    how can you not understand this!?
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So... they are NOT fightng for freedom.

    I guess that addresses the issue well enough.
    Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

    The world really isn't black and white. Sorry it had to be me that you had to find out from.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Those types of freedoms is western styled democracies. Muslims do not want secularism and in most cases the freedom to do as they please
    How can you know if they are prevented from doing so?

    You sound like a Soviet saying that "the East Germans don't want freedom" while the Iron Curtain still stood. But we saw that when the Soviet Union crumbled along with the Berlin Wall, that the people loved freedom when given the chance to exercise it.

    That is why Iraq is settling down now to normalcy and why are they voting and choosing their own futures in democratically free elections.

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's absolutely nothing in my statement that supports this.
    You're now trying to misdirect the conversation.
    Sure. People fought for independence from Britain to set up America and rule it the way they wanted to.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

    The world really isn't black and white. Sorry it had to be me that you had to find out from.
    whatever you do, dont say anything about the Easter Bunny

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If you arent fighting for a 'free society' then you;re not fighting for freedom, you're fighting for power to oppress.
    This is really that simple, why you fail to grasp it is beyond me.
    Well this is not going anywhere. Have fun.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    As though freedom is a relative matter?

    If you can't worship according to your own wishes and beliefs then you are not free, are you?

    Read my sig.
    This is like saying that America isn't free because gays can't marry here.

    No one said that the freedom they fight for is absolute freedom. They want to be free from foreign interference.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    How can you know if they are prevented from doing so?

    That is why Iraq is settling down now to normalcy and why are they voting and choosing their own futures in democratically free elections.
    Normalcy? HAH.
    I would bet my life that in the next decade another dictator will emerge from the ruins of the US/UK invasion into Iraq. Its own History supports this.

    Who is prevented from doing what? Has it ever occured to you that perhaps some Muslims do not WANT democracy?

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

    The world really isn't black and white. Sorry it had to be me that you had to find out from.
    There are some things that are b & w...that are absolute.

    The penalties for apostasy in Islam.

    That is not freedom. It's coercion and intimidation.

    Black & white.

    OBL 11/24/02

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