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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But... are Hamas/Hezbollah actually fighting for freedom?
    For whom? Defined how?
    Not all terrorists are Muslim.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    AlQuaeda: Fighting for freedom?
    Al Qaeda are terrorists, no doubt ...

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Basic knowledge of their ideology will do the trick.
    Whose ideology?

    Terrorists? You do realize where that puts us, right?
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But... are Hamas/Hezbollah actually fighting for freedom?
    For whom? Defined how?
    They wish to end Israeli occupation in what they deem to be their land. So, "yes".
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    As I said...
    All you really need is the stated objective of the terrorist and the impetus behind same.

    AlQuaeda: Fighting for freedom?

    Not if your entire family was blown up by a bomb that was dropped from an American warplane.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Not all terrorists are Muslim.
    Go back to Goobieman's original statement.

    How many terrorists are actually fighting for freedom?

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Basic knowledge of their ideology will do the trick.
    Not at all. Environmental factors play just as big of a role. Do you think the Palestinians would be suicide bombing people randomly if they had their own land to live peacefully in? Actually, I don't want you, specifically, to answer that question.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Go back to Goobieman's original statement.
    They want to be free from western involvement in their affairs. It doesn't have to be complete freedom like we enjoy.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    They wish to end Israeli occupation in what they deem to be their land. So, "yes".
    So... is freedom, defined as 'the removal of Israel from all of Palestine',ACTUAL freedom, or just their convenient defintion thereof?

    That is, are Hamas/Hezbollah planning to replace Israel with free, open societies and governments, where the people are free to act as they please, so long as they do not infringe on others, all while protected from arbitrary and capricious acts by their government?

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    They want to be free from western involvement in their affairs. It doesn't have to be complete freedom like we enjoy.
    BBC NEWS | Americas | Most Muslims 'desire democracy'

    "Muslims want self-determination, but not an American-imposed and defined democracy. They don't want secularism or theocracy," said the professor of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University in Washington.

    "What the majority wants is democracy with religious values."
    The freedom the west is used to isn't what everyone wants.

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