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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    For the life of me I can not understand how some of you can support an organization that is responsible for suicide bombings of civilians.
    I can see why people would refer to them as freedom fighters likewise i can see why people refer to American and British soldiers as opressors and terrorists - That does not mean you support it

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You do realize by that logic rape is just a form of sex then.
    You can:
    -Use terrorism, making you a terrorist.
    -Fight for actual freedom, making you a freedom fighter
    -Fight for actual freedom using terrorism, making you BOTH a freedom fighter AND a terrorist

    But, unless you are fighting for actual freedom, you cannot be a freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well unionists consistently get the most votes, surely that demonstrates a high level of support? Also if only 24% of the population classes themselves as republican then surely that would surgest most are against a united ireland?

    First, we'll ignore the obvious gerrymandering that occured for so long. This is an indisputable fact, but we'll still ignore it for the sake of the current debate.

    Let's just look over the past few elections to see what has occured:

    For the 2007 election, the two major Unionis parties, the Ulster Unionist party and the Democratic Unionist Party, lost 3 seats collectively. (6 gained by the DUP, 9 lost by the UUP). 54 seats between these two parties.

    The two major Nationalist parties, Sinn Fein and the Social Democratic and Labour Party, gained 2 seats collectively (2 lost by the SDLP, 4 gained by Sinn Fein). 44 seats between these two parties.

    There are 7 Alliance Party seats (1 seat gained since 2003). And 3 held by minor parties, including the Progressive Unionist party rasing the Unionist total to 55. (But of the 3 minor party seats in 2003, one was Progressive unionist party, which was retained, the other was United Kingdom Unionist Party which was lost)

    So in 2003, the Unionist parties combined to hold 58 seats (about 54%), while the Nationalists held 42 seats (about 39%). In 2007 those numbers are 55 Unionist (51%) 44 Nationalist (41%)


    And the "majority' vote has a pretty clear deliniation. The north-northeast is Unionist (Mostly Eastern Derry, Antrim, and Northern Down) while the south-southwest is Republican (Western Derry, Fermanagh, Tyrone, most of Armagh, and Southern Down). Belfast is split pretty much along the same lines. South and West are Republican, North and East are Unionist.


    So although there is a unionist majority, it grows more tentative with every election.

    And all that is shown while discounting all of the gerrymandering that has taken place over decades.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can:
    -Use terrorism, making you a terrorist.
    -Fight for actual freedom, making you a freedom fighter
    -Fight for actual freedom using terrorism, making you BOTH a freedom fighter AND a terrorist

    But, unless you are fighting for actual freedom, you cannot be a freedom fighter.



    This is true.


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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You are caught up on the fact that they don't fight fair. The British didn't think we fought fair either as we hid behind trees while they marched and played music out in the open.



    Fair?


    Only losers and liars fight fair.


    Our FF's did not use terrorism. People who compare them to the savages today are clueless.
    Last edited by ReverendHellh0und; 02-10-09 at 10:38 AM.


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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But, unless you are fighting for actual freedom, you cannot be a freedom fighter.
    Who decides who is fighting for freedom and who isn't?

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Fair?


    Only losers and liars fight fair.


    Our FF's did not use terrorism. People who compare them to the savages today are clueless.
    What makes them savages?

    They don't use ethical warfare. In other words, they don't fight fair. They subscribe to "All's fair in love and war." The ends justify their means in their eyes.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Who decides who is fighting for freedom and who isn't?


    When you fight to set up a taliban like religious regieme, you are not fighting for freedom. Sorry,.


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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    What makes them savages?
    You are kidding right?

    They don't use ethical warfare. In other words, they don't fight fair. They subscribe to "All's fair in love and war." The ends justify their means in their eyes.

    Killing civillians as targets is barbary.


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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Who decides who is fighting for freedom and who isn't?
    That's determined by the objectives of those fighting.
    If you are fighting for the power to oppress others, then you're not fighting for freedom, you're fighting for power.

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