The only real answer is one given by PeteEU ages ago and repeated again - it is a question of perspective. Hamas self proclaim as "resistance" - not "freedom." The label "freedom fighter" is not part of their vocabulary.
Its completely straightforwrd, and very simple.
The answer is as well.
So you would agree that Hamas, Hizboolah, and AQ are -not- actually freedom fighters, since they do not actually fight for freedom.The only real answer is one given by PeteEU ages ago and repeated again - it is a question of perspective. Hamas self proclaim as "resistance" - not "freedom." The label "freedom fighter" is not part of their vocabulary.
targetted civilians and engaged in other terror tactics during the 1920's.
As far as the fromation of the pIRA goes, this was brought on by protestant paramilitary groups such as the UVF who engaged in terrorism and ended up in positions of authority in such groups as theUDR and RUC.
Although, one thing must be noted above and beyond anything else. Unlike the Protestant paramilitary groups, the pIRA has apologized for all civilian casualties.
Killing members of the government, especially terrorist elements within the government (i.e. the RUC & UDF), in a fight for freedom is not terrorism.They tried to achieve their goal through means that are considered terrorism. i.e. to instill fear and make a place ungovernable whether through terrorising ordinary civilians or killing members of the govt. Driving the English out or into the sea was just as much an IRA goal as Hamas driving the Israelis out.
The only valid metric for terrorism is targetting civilians, and that alone should be the metric.
There is no doubt that some members of the pIRA most definitely engaged in terrorism, but it was not a universal tactic employed by every member of the pIRA.
But it must also be stated that the pIRA was not the only terrorist group in Northern Ireland, and as far as the ratio of dead civilians to combatants goes, they were far from the worst terrorist group in Northern Ireland.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.
So let me ask you.. condemn Hamas and the way it goes about doing things, but do you support the right of the Palestinian people to live in a country of their own in the areas known as the occupied territories or not?
But regardless of you answer, you can not deny that in the eyes of the oppressed peoples in the occupied areas, Hamas or anyone fighting back will be seen as a freedom fighter, and those that occupy the area will see them as terrorists.. yes or no?
As for goals in revolutionary charters or documents... so you are saying because Hamas has been interpreted by westerners to want to get rid of Israel in a document written under occupation and war (and a document with a highly religious theme at that), then this organisation is "damned" forever? Does this apply for everyone or just muslims? Because if I remember right, the US revolutionary documents promoted slavery and denied rights to women..
Last edited by PeteEU; 02-09-09 at 03:26 PM.