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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    You didn't seem to mention "radical Islam" in any of your posts, instead just using basic generalizations:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057916644-post182.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057916678-post187.html

    Here comes the trolling label. I noticed that when he got smacked in the face with his use of the term Islamic facism.
    Hmm I see, so when I said...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If Al-Qaida or Hamas were fighting for freedom I might agree with the statement.
    ...you thought I was refering to the avarage muslim.

    Well that's your fault not mine.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Well when I said you, I really meant the collective you. I have no qualms with you Jerry, you just so happen to be the one I was referring to.
    That's a lame and typical cop-out.

    When you quote me "you" in your post refers to me individually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    My point, which was in my post as well, is that in the eyes of every fighter they are fighting freedom from or for or to something. Whether it's the political sovereignty our fore-fathers fought for, the freedom of the restrictions of Earth which religious extremists fight for. But overly, the main thing people fight for is the freedom to choose. The freedom to choose whether they want a theocracy, or a democracy.
    They are NOT fighting for freedom, don't you get it?

    They are fighting for WW3.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I think those Muslims that are fighting the Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan would read the part where I'm speaking about Al-Qaida, Hamas and "radical Islam".

    You're another troll to add to the collection.
    You "Islam does not fight for anyone's freedom." not "radical Islam does not fight for anyones freedom" Its reasonable enough to assume you belive the two are interchangable if you fail to make the distinction.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    You "Islam does not fight for anyone's freedom." not "radical Islam does not fight for anyones freedom" Its reasonable enough to assume you belive the two are interchangable if you fail to make the distinction.
    I just said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They are NOT fighting for freedom, don't you get it?
    So according to you I must be speaking about every single person on the planet, right?

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's a lame and typical cop-out.

    When you quote me "you" in your post refers to me individually.
    Make up your mind. You call me a troll, and then you get upset whenever I try to rectify the situation. Dude seriously, you should change your signature to have a disclaimer that anyone who uses second person language will be considered a troll.

    They are NOT fighting for freedom, don't you get it?

    They are fighting for WW3.
    1) WW3 hahahahahahahahaha. Nostradamus is way more persuasive with his Quatrains than you are. What makes you think A) there is not a world war under way and B) that if there was to be a world war that there would be declarations of war?


    2) Did you not read my post, at all? They are fighting for freedom to make the choice.
    Please tell me again, how they are not fighting for any freedom whatsoever, that they are just mindlessly killing innocent civilians with no political motivation, and therein, if there was a political motivation it had no wish to cultivate into a power of control (the freedom to infuse one's will on others).
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    This is a dumb thread.


    About as intellectuall stimulating as:

    "a hen in hand is worth 2 in teh bush"

    agree or disagree



    Some Islamic (yes) fascist is not interested in any kind of freedom.

    What sort of "freedom" did the taliban bring Afghanistan?


    Matthew 10:34
    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Fail. You're arguing apples and oranges.
    You know this, of course.

    Unless, of course, you're arguing that Hamas/Hezbollah/AQ are fighting to set up a country akin to ours, where people are free to do what they want as they want, so long as they do not impose upon others, and are protected from arbitrary acts by their government.

    Tell me:
    How does fighting for the power to impose an oppresive theocracy equate to fighting for freedom?
    It always amuses me when Eurotrash and Liberals try to compare our founding forefathers to scum who blow themselves up to murder innocent civilians,behead innocent people and try to impose a harsh oppressive theocracy.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It always amuses me when Eurotrash and Liberals try to compare our founding forefathers to scum who blow themselves up to murder innocent civilians,behead innocent people and try to impose a harsh oppressive theocracy.
    Yes, it is sadly amusing.

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    idea Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    I can see what you are saying. It depends on where you are, what you believe and politics.

    During the Bush administration, I sort of considered myself a freedom fighter.

    Bush and his cronies were so busy trying harm the USA and get his rich buddies richer. We still have our pointless endless war against the Iraqi people.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    I can see what you are saying. It depends on where you are, what you believe and politics.

    During the Bush administration, I sort of considered myself a freedom fighter.

    Bush and his cronies were so busy trying harm the USA and get his rich buddies richer. We still have our pointless endless war against the Iraqi people.


    Well it's a good thing Obama came along and ended the Iraq war. Oh wait.


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