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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Says he who refuses to address a question that diectly attacks the heart of the discussion.

    I guess that means you won't be posting here any more.
    It would appear that you are a less amusing version of Truth Detector...
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Which one? I already explained how they were fighting for freedom.
    I asked:

    How does fighting for the power to create an oppressive throcracy erquate to fighitng for freedom?

    Neither you nor anyone else has answered that.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It would appear that you are a less amusing version of Truth Detector...
    It appears you have less intellectual honesty that hautey.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I asked:

    How does fighting for the power to create an oppressive throcracy erquate to fighitng for freedom?

    Neither you nor anyone else has answered that.
    Who is creating an oppressive theocracy? Who, in this thread, condoned a theocracy? Are you swinging at strawmen again?
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Says he who refuses to address a question that diectly attacks the heart of the discussion.

    I guess that means you won't be posting here any more.
    Great, go tell your babysitter that you won a debate and get your cookie.

    I won't tell her you never addressed my point and didn't bother pursuing the question of mine you avoided.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It appears you have less intellectual honesty that hautey.
    Awww, you are so good to me, baby.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I would like to see the one person who voted "No" to post their reason why.
    I voted no because there was no "other" option.

    Here's why:

    The poll question asks an absolute. Is every person who is one man's terrorist, another man's freedom fighter.

    This is not necessarily true.

    The truth is that one man's terrorist may actually be a freedom fighter, and one man's freedom fighter may actually be a terrorist.

    The definitions are clear for each of these terms, and are not necessarily subject to mis-application of the terms.

    If a combatant's actions specifically and purposely target civilians and does not purposely target combatants, they are a terrorists.

    If a combatant's actions specifically and purposely targets combatants and does not purposely target civilians, they are a freedom fighter.


    For example, there were many members of the pIRA that were freedom fighters, not terrorists, because they only targetted RUC outposts, British soldiers, and Protestant paramilitary groups like the UVF and never specifically targetted civilians.

    Affiliation with an organization alone is not enough to warrant the label "terrorist". Labelling those who do not target civilians as terrorists is incorrect. They may belong to an organization that has committed terrorism, but that does not necessarily make them an actual terrorist. Regardless of the oopinions of those who seek to label these people as "terrorists" without the all-important prerequisite of purposely targetting civilians, the label cannot apply.

    And some pIRA members targetted civilians. These people were terrorists, regardless of whetehr someon wanted to label them otherwise. The subjective views of the person claiming that these men were not terrorists but freedom fighters cannot stand up to the definitions because the action specfically targetted civilians. Regardless of how the person feels about it, the objective truth is that they are terrorists.



    The thing is the definition is clear. If someone specifically targets civilians instead of combatants, they are a terrorist. If they specifically target combatants to achieve freedom, they are freedom fighters.

    Subjective interpretations by either side only seek to muddy the waters further. The truth is actually black and white and applied to the individual.

    Hiroshima? Nagasaki? These were terrorist acts because they targetted civilians.

    Just because people might happen to agree with a terrorist action really has no bearing on whether or not it is actually terrorism.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Who is creating an oppressive theocracy?
    This is the objective of Hamas, Hizbollah and AQ.
    Please, try to keep up.

    So...?

    How does fighting for the power to create an oppressive throcracy erquate to fighitng for freedom?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-06-09 at 01:55 PM.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Great, go tell your babysitter that you won a debate and get your cookie.
    Ah. The juvenile retort of someone that knows he can no longer carry his position.

    Noted.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-06-09 at 01:57 PM.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is the objective of Hamas, Hizbollah and AQ.
    Please, try to keep up.

    So...?

    How does fighting for the power to create an oppressive throcracy erquate to fighitng for freedom?
    Oh! Silly me! Did you miss the part when I asked who, in this thread, condoned a theocracy?
    Last edited by First Thought; 02-06-09 at 01:57 PM.
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