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Thread: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    There are some things that are b & w...that are absolute.

    The penalties for apostasy in Islam.

    That is not freedom. It's coercion and intimidation.

    Black & white.
    And they view the West's involvement as coercion and intimidation. They want to be free from that. No one said the freedom they fought for was absolute. It's not black and white.

    In the vast majority of America it's illegal to sell something that is perfectly fine to give away for free.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    And they view the West's involvement as coercion and intimidation. They want to be free from that. No one said the freedom they fought for was absolute. It's not black and white.
    How does fighting for the power to impose an oppressive theocracy equate to fighting for freedom?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-06-09 at 01:32 PM.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Forcing people to live they way you want them to live is oppression.
    Fighthing for the power to do so, therefore, is NOT fighting for freedom.
    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So Washington wasn't fighting for freedom?
    Don't run now.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    There is, of course, no simple yes or no to this one...
    Man is mistaken if he thinks he can have all the freedom he wants - particularly now in our crowded society - it is far too easy to step on another man's toes.
    Depending on ones perspective, the freedom fighter and terrorist can be one and the same, the terrorist is simply more extreme.
    As I have said; its what they are fighting for..I think it is wrong for the Palestinian not to accept the Jew, but they disagree.
    Both side must be respected..
    As I recall, at one time they were living side by side in peace , but I do not know if this was true or not.....
    Crowded is a key word.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How does fighting for the power to impose an oppresive theocracy equate to fighting for freedom?
    You didn't say anything about theocracy. You just said oppression. Theocracy is an irrelevant qualifier. Washington oppressed Africans. The reason doesn't matter.
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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Don't run now.
    Dont run from what?

    I'm not at all sure how you think your question follows from anything I've posted.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Penalties? Ohh, you mean Saudi Arabia with the beheadings? The same government who is best friends with US. No wai!
    Do you know the history of this relationship?

    When the Grand Mosque was seized by religious terrorists in 1979 the Saudi government needed religious permission to use arms within the sacred area to dispel the terrorists. The nation's religious leaders agreed to give the govt. permission to use arms just as long as the govt., in turn, agreed to participate in certain activities and fund certain projects.

    It's like our Republicans and Democrats. Certain laws and activities exist only because of our need to co-exist and compromise.

    Same with the Saudis.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You didn't say anything about theocracy. You just said oppression. Theocracy is an irrelevant qualifier. Washington oppressed Africans. The reason doesn't matter.
    You didnt answer the question.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 02-06-09 at 01:35 PM.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Do you know the history of this relationship?.

    It's like our Republicans and Democrats. Certain laws and activities exist only because of our need to co-exist and compromise.

    Same with the Saudis.
    Im well aware and you think that still matters?

    Let me put this very clearly.
    The west and in particular US cannot fly under the banner of freedom and human rights when money is going to opressive regimes. That is hypocritical and backwards.

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    Re: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Forcing people to live they way you want them to live is oppression.
    Fighthing for the power to do so, therefore, is NOT fighting for freedom.
    Does this mean you never supported the war in Iraq? Considering we decided to invade them because we wanted them to be a stable democracy? Imposing OUR system of beliefs, government on them?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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