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Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

  • Obviously! It should carry MMS and strict for 2nd++ offense..

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Yes, jailtime.

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No..

    Votes: 57 87.7%
  • Something else(explain).

    Votes: 4 6.2%

  • Total voters
    65
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Story of my childhood. Look how screwed up I am with my engineering degree, full time job, loving family, and love of life. It all could have been avoided if we just jailed my father. :lol:

Id like to see your face when you discover her in your bed sucking the **** of another man with another man putting his in her vagina.. Tell me that wouldnt change your perspective on you being able to press charges on her against not having that possibility... If you are married.....
 
Did I ever claim that? How in the world can you read that from what I said? "people do not kill a cheating spouse because she wont go to jail".. Geez, thats stretching it incrdibly.. They kill out of revenge. And if jail was an alternate revenge to murder and violence and so on, it would be used and the other two alternatives would look less attractive.

You ask how I can interpret "people do not kill a cheating spouse because she wont go to jail" from what you said, and then immediately state: "They kill out of revenge. And if jail was an alternate revenge to murder and violence and so on, it would be used and the other two alternatives would look less attractive."

Seems pretty obvious to me that you are implying that, because an alternative to violent revenge does not exist for them, they turn towards violence and murder. How else could I possibly interpret this, Max?

The fact is that, yes, they kill for revenge.

You say that an alternative revenge wil prevent murder, but if jail doesn't even prevent murder, how the **** is it going to prevent adultery?

:confused:

You're contradicting yourself.








You wouldnt HAVE to press charges. But at least you COULD.

What purpose would it serve to have the ability?
 
Id like to see your face when you discover her in your bed sucking the **** of another man with another man putting his in her vagina.. Tell me that wouldnt change your perspective on you being able to press charges on her against not having that possibility... If you are married.....

Play it right and you can go with the temporary insanity plee after you unload a few rounds......just sayin....
 
Play it right and you can go with the temporary insanity plee after you unload a few rounds......just sayin....

Yeah, thats a much better option than having the ability to press charges against her and sending her to jail for 3 months! :roll:
 
Id like to see your face when you discover her in your bed sucking the **** of another man with another man putting his in her vagina.. Tell me that wouldnt change your perspective on you being able to press charges on her against not having that possibility... If you are married.....

I think after I got over the shock, the first word out of my mouth would be, "Sweeeeet!"

TED,
Sick bastid. :lol:
 
Yes, it can.

When she thinks she can just walk all over you and one day you suddenly stand up for yourself, causing her some pain in the process, she may respect you more.

Do you respect her for the pain she caused you?

You would be seeking revenge, not respect, by causing her pain.
 
You ask how I can interpret "people do not kill a cheating spouse because she wont go to jail" from what you said, and then immediately state: "They kill out of revenge. And if jail was an alternate revenge to murder and violence and so on, it would be used and the other two alternatives would look less attractive."

Seems pretty obvious to me that you are implying that, because an alternative to violent revenge does not exist for them, they turn towards violence and murder. How else could I possibly interpret this, Max?

The fact is that, yes, they kill for revenge.

You say that an alternative revenge wil prevent murder, but if jail doesn't even prevent murder, how the **** is it going to prevent adultery?

:confused:

You're contradicting yourself.

All this is true if you look at in the simplest and most biased way.







What purpose would it serve to have the ability?

To get revenge by sending her to jail rather than killing her or something similar..?
 
Do you respect her for the pain she caused you?

In some ways, yes.

Our divorce wasn't all her fault.

You would be seeking revenge, not respect, by causing her pain.

As I happen to be the world's foremost authority on my opinion and motivations, I say under my own credulity that I would first be seeking what was best for my boys, my own self respect second, and her respect third.
 
All this is true if you look at in the simplest and most biased way.









To get revenge by sending her to jail rather than killing her or something similar..?

People don't think rationally when they commit a crime of passion.
 
I don't know, why should they?

I'm not making the argument that they should. In fact, I don't think that it is the government's job at all.

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And let me tell you from experience, returning fire does in fact alleviate some of the pain.

Sending the message that she cannot do just whatever she wants while free from any consequence at all helps one to deal with the situation.

Perhaps, but I'm not talking about civil law (breech of civil law is not a crime, as a crime is a breech of Public Law, not private or common law) which would be how one could "return fire" in the current system.
 
In some ways, yes.

Our divorce wasn't all her fault.

I guess we are different people. I don't respect people that intentionally hurt me.

As I happen to be the world's foremost authority on my opinion and motivations, I say under my own credulity that I would first be seeking what was best for my boys, my own self respect second, and her respect third.

Causing your boys' mother pain is in their best interest? Can you explain that as I don't understand.

Did you file for divorce or her? If you did, then you sent the message that she can't get away with it and that showed your self-respect.

I don't see how see would respect you for hurting her. I know you are in pain from all of this. I think your emotions may cause you some confusion as to what you think you will gain from hurting the mother of your children.
 
All this is true if you look at in the simplest and most biased way.

How is my response looking at it in a "simple or biased" way? Can you please elaborate?

From my perspective, I'm looking at it in a non-emotional logical way.










To get revenge by sending her to jail rather than killing her or something similar..?

IT is 100% right on this.

You are implying that a crime of passion can be prevented by creating an alternative "revenge". This would need some evidence to support it.

I have serious doubts you can provide support because people who kill their spouses are not in a logical enough state to sit back and say "**** it! I can just send the bitch to prison. I won't cut her labia off and wear them as a hat! Thank God for the legal system! Otherwise that bitch's twat was going to be a fedora!"
 
I'm not making the argument that they should. In fact, I don't think that it is the government's job at all.

Then I don't see where we disagree.

Perhaps, but I'm not talking about civil law (breech of civil law is not a crime, as a crime is a breech of Public Law, not private or common law) which would be how one could "return fire" in the current system.

Well hold on, individual private citizens do not press criminal charges. They never did.

The State presses criminal charges.

If adultery became a criminal offence it would by definition become an offence against the State.

So you should be asking why the State would want to make adultery a criminal act.
 
Deterrence?

Would it deter it more than the current method in place? Divorce, monetary damages, potentially losing custody of the children, etc?


And wouldn't a prenuptial agreement do just as much to deter it if worded correctly?



And I might add that, at least from my perspective, There is very little difference between my wife wanting to cheat and being forced by law not to and her cheating on me.

They are both just as bad to me because it is not the physical act that I have a problem with, it is the emotional betrayal. If she desires infidelity in her heart, she has already betrayed me.
 
Id like to see your face when you discover her in your bed sucking the **** of another man with another man putting his in her vagina.. Tell me that wouldnt change your perspective on you being able to press charges on her against not having that possibility... If you are married.....
And what does my personal feelings have to do with justice? My feelings justify action? Is that what this pathetic attempt was?

Grow up, Max. You only live once. That's far too short of a time to get your panties in a knot over such petty matters.
 
I'm not talking about the criminal court.

I never was.

Adultery is a civil crime handled in civil court.

You said that adultery is not a crime. That means adultery is neither a criminal or civil crime, which is false. Adultery is a civil crime.



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Cool - I was concerned that I might have actually been trolling, but by definition - I guess it could fall vaguely into the 'flaming' category as did your response that initiated my reply.

And you didn't answer my first question directly. The subject at hand (according to the poll) is asking if jailtime is appropriate for those committing adultery.

Hence the issue of criminal vs. civil arose and I think it got twisted (by whom I wonder) into a legal definition debate which is beyond the scope of what's being discussed. In a sense that it is technically a "crime" as recognized by some states and yet has no criminal prosecution or conviction sort of takes the wind out of those sails, but moreso it's a crime that leads to potential civil proceedings if initiated by the victim.
 
Causing your boys' mother pain is in their best interest? Can you explain that as I don't understand.

I sue for primary custody, this causes their mother pain. This is in their best interest because of the people she has living in that house.

Did you file for divorce or her? If you did, then you sent the message that she can't get away with it and that showed your self-respect.

Filling divorce caused her pain, so you don't support filling for divorce.

I don't see how see would respect you for hurting her. I know you are in pain from all of this. I think your emotions may cause you some confusion as to what you think you will gain from hurting the mother of your children.

I hurt her when I didn't trust her with sole access to our joint tax return, and started walking away from filling until *I* had sole access. There were no insults, no names, and no raised voices. Simply not trusting her is what hurt her.

My emotional motivation there was to not allow her to walk all over me again, not revenge.

You don't support my standing firm, though, because it hurt her feelings, just as you don't support my filing on her for the same reason.
 
How is my response looking at it in a "simple or biased" way? Can you please elaborate?

From my perspective, I'm looking at it in a non-emotional logical way.

Nah, its not important.. You just misunderstood what I said and than used the simplest way of responding to it, rather than responding to what I actually said. Not important, I had a long day at work, dont want to cycle back in last posts and show you the context. Sorry.


IT is 100% right on this.

You are implying that a crime of passion can be prevented by creating an alternative "revenge". This would need some evidence to support it.

I have serious doubts you can provide support because people who kill their spouses are not in a logical enough state to sit back and say "**** it! I can just send the bitch to prison. I won't cut her labia off and wear them as a hat! Thank God for the legal system! Otherwise that bitch's twat was going to be a fedora!"

So you agree adultery must be prevented by the extent the state can prevent it? by criminalizing it? not just to prevent adultery but all the destructive behaviour and results that follow?
 
And what does my personal feelings have to do with justice? My feelings justify action? Is that what this pathetic attempt was?

Grow up, Max. You only live once. That's far too short of a time to get your panties in a knot over such petty matters.

If I ever hurt a woman by cheating on her I would accept being jailed as fair punishment for my idiocy, my stupid behavior and the possibility that I broke her heart, her mental stability and short term future.

If we were married and had children I would be happy to spend time in jail to get punished for putting those children in a bad situation that it would when their mother (most likely) divorced me, and getting them from a stable, safe and good situation into (for a child) confusing and bad situation.
 
So what if you're sexually liberal - you and your wife, and like to swing. Wife-swapping.

Is that adultery? By it's basic definition it is.
 
Jailing someone with financial or child-rearing obligations to the family for what ammounts to a moral offense within the marriage seems like a really great way of making sure that family ends up poor, since that financial or child-rearing support will be lost the moment an arrest occurs.

Childhood poverty is one of the major indicators when it comes to predicting liklihood for future criminal activity.

This kind of arrangement only makes sense for people who work in the criminal justice system.
 
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