Thread: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

Originally Posted by Arcana XV

Well, she does have a point. What would you do if your wife stopped having sex with you and refused to give you a divorce? Would you really become celibate until she finally changes her mind, which could take years?

The state has default laws that protect people from others dragging their feet for cases just like these.

I don't think rivrrat meant what she said as an excuse for cheating, but as a possible explanation why someone would feel compelled to cheat.

That may be well and true... but how we word things indicates how we feel subconsciously. To say that somebody "made" us do something as ridiculous as cheat may not be what they meant to say, but in my experience, it is a perfect representation regarding how they actually feel about the matter. In Rivs case, it aligns PERFECTLY with the many many MANY times that I have heard her make excuses and justifications for peoples irresponsible and untrustworthy behacior. Just look at her refusal to see the context in which I am discussing trust, or this issue for that matter. She keeps indicating that my argument is about "a person's feeling" being "hurt". INO she is dishonest or deluded. Seriously... and dishonest goes towards her attitudes about why she doesn want to view her cheating with a married man actions as irresponsible and untrustworthy...

Look, with KK and riv this is the routine. They admit to being selfish and not caring. It is the "families fault" that the family breaks up, not their fault in any shape or form. She has never indicated that it is not the kids faulr, she just glosses over that point that I keep making, for she knows that it will bury her and she will have to face reality. That is why I end it in a "whatever..."

Only the two people involved know what's really going on in a marriage. This is why this whole making adultery criminal is such a retarded idea.

That's not true... counselers might know. Friends. Family. I have known many peoples marrital issues. WE have been to a counselor. I have talked to my dad, brother and friend about things, as has my wife. To say that it is in the family since only they know, and it is their issue as to whether it breaks up is a cop out. It is simply retarded. They make the final decision, but for most everybody that I know think that cheating is marriage ending and they know this prior to cheating.



This was an interesting read regardless of stand on the issue...

Should Adultery be a Crime?

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Wow.. Amazing, just amazing.. And I guess adultery do not lead to divorce?

Not always...

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

The state has default laws that protect people from others dragging their feet for cases just like these.

Point. And, if you ask me, the state has been making divorce easier and easier to obtain with each passing decade. And this is true in practically the entire industrialized world. It really doesn't seem all that bothered about doing its utmost to keep families together. Does anyone really think that MaxZ's idea of making adultery illegal has a chance in hell of ever becoming law?

That may be well and true... but how we word things indicates how we feel subconsciously. To say that somebody "made" us do something as ridiculous as cheat may not be what they meant to say, but in my experience, it is a perfect representation regarding how they actually feel about the matter. In Rivs case, it aligns PERFECTLY with the many many MANY times that I have heard her make excuses and justifications for peoples irresponsible and untrustworthy behacior. Just look at her refusal to see the context in which I am discussing trust, or this issue for that matter. She keeps indicating that my argument is about "a person's feeling" being "hurt". INO she is dishonest or deluded. Seriously... and dishonest goes towards her attitudes about why she doesn want to view her cheating with a married man actions as irresponsible and untrustworthy...

Look, with KK and riv this is the routine. They admit to being selfish and not caring. It is the "families fault" that the family breaks up, not their fault in any shape or form. She has never indicated that it is not the kids faulr, she just glosses over that point that I keep making, for she knows that it will bury her and she will have to face reality. That is why I end it in a "whatever..."

Yeah, I'm not here to pass judgment on others, sorry. I'll just say this, in cases of adultery I never blame the other woman for anything. I didn't in my case and I won't do it in other cases either. She didn't do anything wrong. My ex husband did. He is the only one to blame for the choices he made. All she ever did wrong was fall in love with him. If you can even ever call love "wrong".

That's not true... counselers might know. Friends. Family. I have known many peoples marrital issues. WE have been to a counselor. I have talked to my dad, brother and friend about things, as has my wife. To say that it is in the family since only they know, and it is their issue as to whether it breaks up is a cop out. It is simply retarded. They make the final decision, but for most everybody that I know think that cheating is marriage ending and they know this prior to cheating.

None of these people will ever know the whole story. They get glimpses of what the two parties decide to share, but we never really get the whole story.

As for your last point, it's a cultural thing, you know. While it is true that most of my American friends do consider adultery to be THE deal breaker, it's no so much the case in Europe. Europeans, for some reason, tend to be much more forgiving of infidelity. Except for the Mediterranean cultures, that seem to still regard women as either virgins or whores and where men still think their wife's vagina is their personal property.

This was an interesting read regardless of stand on the issue...

Should Adultery be a Crime?

There's so much I disagree with in there, I wouldn't know where to start breaking that mumbo jumbo of pop psych, sociological myths and evolutionary psych apart.

Originally Posted by EgoffTib

Not always...

I never said adultery always leads to divorce. Thats why I make it a big point in this thread that "criminalization" of adultery should only give the offended party the RIGHT to press charges and have the adulterer punished. That would be up to them.

Originally Posted by TOJ

I've not read the whole thread so this may have been asked already.

For those advocating criminalizing adultery where else in personal relationships, especially sexual, do you think the government should be involved. Should pre-maritial sex be a criminal offense punishable by jail time? How about homosexual behavior?

I am only answering on my own behalf..

1. Government should NOT be involved. It should be about giving the RIGHT of the party cheated on to press charges against the adulterer if he so wanted and had sufficient proof. Its not about state surveillance of human relationship and discovering adulterers and putting them in jail.
2. No pre-marital sex should definetely not be a criminal offense in my opinion.
3. Homosexual behavior and sex should not be criminal behavior, but in my opinion, homosexual relations should not be accepted by the state, meaning homosexual marriage and adoption should never be considered.

I guess since I am the thread starter and have somewhat conservative views on adultery, those should be satisfactory answers to gain a more overall view on my stands?

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

1. Government should NOT be involved. It should be about giving the RIGHT of the party cheated on to press charges against the adulterer if he so wanted and had sufficient proof. Its not about state surveillance of human relationship and discovering adulterers and putting them in jail.

So even if an adulterer doesn't have children they still get punished? Because...